Stop hating on players that have housing

[Heroman3003]

The hate isn't against 'people who have housing' but against 'people who have housing, and yet feel entitled enough to demand even more content for their exclusive little club while the lack of space remains an issue.

[Silvarer]

The hate isn't against 'people who have housing' but against 'people who have housing, and yet feel entitled enough to demand even more content for their exclusive little club while the lack of space remains an issue.

This is the most bizarre and pointlessly bitter take you could possibly have. People who own houses are players of the game just like anyone else. They have just as much right to want content for what they enjoy as anyone else. There is nothing exclusive or elitist about it.

And to head any dumb attempts at accusations off at the pass, no I don't own a house either and have never even tried to bid on one. I just think the bitterness some people have over this specific thing has gotten way out of proportion.

[Heroman3003]

This is the most bizarre and pointlessly bitter take you could possibly have. People who own houses are players of the game just like anyone else. They have just as much right to want content for what they enjoy as anyone else. There is nothing exclusive or elitist about it.

And to head any dumb attempts at accusations off at the pass, no I don't own a house either and have never even tried to bid on one. I just think the bitterness some people have over this specific thing has gotten way out of proportion.

Sorry for having so little belief in OP's good intentions after they started a thread in General Discussions with this in their preface:

And if you don't have a house I dont want to hear you say "well at least you have a yard" or "INSTANCED housing I dont care" because this isn't your thread.

This is literally that very elitism. "No landless peasants in my thread where I complain about limited size of my vineyard".

[Silvarer]

Sorry for having so little belief in OP's good intentions after they started a thread in General Discussions with this in their preface:



This is literally that very elitism. "No landless peasants in my thread where I complain about limited size of my vineyard".

No, it was very clearly an attempt by them to ward off the bitterness people like you always bring into housing threads to derail the discussion. Should they have worded it in a more polite and less aggressive way? Certainly. But you really need to take that chip off your shoulder and take a look at the way you’ve been behaving.

[Heroman3003]

No, it was very clearly an attempt by them to ward off the bitterness people like you always bring into housing threads to derail the discussion. Should they have worded it in a more polite and less aggressive way? Certainly. But you really need to take that chip off your shoulder and take a look at the way you’ve been behaving.

The only reason they even got 'hate' was that behaviour of elitism of house owners they displayed. And 'hate' is a strong word when its just being called out on way they are acting. And that's why they deserve to be called out same way in this thread as well. Framing of one's demands is important and theirs is framed purely in "I want more resources dedicated to making exclusive content deeper instead of making it less exclusive (which would require those same resources) and I dont opinions of those who can't access said exclusive content." That's what their original post read like, they got justly called out on it, so they made a second one demanding the 'hate' towards the poor abused homeowners stop.

[Hoehenflug]

The only reason they even got 'hate' was that behaviour of elitism of house owners they displayed. And 'hate' is a strong word when its just being called out on way they are acting. And that's why they deserve to be called out same way in this thread as well. Framing of one's demands is important and theirs is framed purely in "I want more resources dedicated to making exclusive content deeper instead of making it less exclusive (which would require those same resources) and I dont opinions of those who can't access said exclusive content." That's what their original post read like, they got justly called out on it, so they made a second one demanding the 'hate' towards the poor abused homeowners stop.

And what makes you more entitled? SE answer to the housing shortage has been implementing new servers. What YOU are demanding is putting those figurative 'resources' into implementing unlimited wards, which won't happen any time soon.

Meanwhile, people like me have accepted the situation for what it is, moved on from idealism and are house owners now for taking the appropriate measures, e.g. farming Gil or moving servers.

We were dedicated, we listened to SE, analyzed their past behaviour and acted accordingly.

What you are demanding is just as 'selfish'. And btw, those resources are likely completely different forms of data storage and like completely different teams.

We shouldn't demand less, but we also shouldn't jump at each other's throat for making demands that don't reflect our own. Especially not, if they are just unscientific, emotional rambling.

Also no, there are no 'poor abused homeowners'. You make us laugh.

[Heroman3003]

And what makes you more entitled? SE answer to the housing shortage has been implementing new servers. What YOU are demanding is putting those figurative 'resources' into implementing unlimited wards, which won't happen any time soon.

Meanwhile, people like me have accepted the situation for what it is, moved on from idealism and are house owners now for taking the appropriate measures, e.g. farming Gil or moving servers.

We were dedicated, we listened to SE, analyzed their past behaviour and acted accordingly.

What you are demanding is just as 'selfish'. And btw, those resources are likely completely different forms of data storage and like completely different teams.

We shouldn't demand less, but we also shouldn't jump at each other's throat for making demands that don't reflect our own. Especially not, if they are just unscientific, emotional rambling.

Also no, there are no 'poor abused homeowners'. You make us laugh.

New servers is a terrible answer, as that demands existing players move to said other servers. It doesn't solve the problem which at its core lies in one, simple aspect: housing is limted per world. Demanding someone abandon friends or community just to own a house is unreasonable. They showed themselves perfectly capable of handling huge amount of smaller housing with apartments too. and yet, they are too afraid to stop the few truly housing-exclusive features from being exclusive. There'd be no problem with housing as limited thing if there weren't features only available to house owners, but as long as there are, the very fact that there is no instanced housing that has access to everything current housing does should be offensive to the community.

[Tint]

The only reason they even got 'hate' was that behaviour of elitism of house owners they displayed. And 'hate' is a strong word when its just being called out on way they are acting. And that's why they deserve to be called out same way in this thread as well. Framing of one's demands is important and theirs is framed purely in "I want more resources dedicated to making exclusive content deeper instead of making it less exclusive (which would require those same resources) and I dont opinions of those who can't access said exclusive content." That's what their original post read like, they got justly called out on it, so they made a second one demanding the 'hate' towards the poor abused homeowners stop.

We want instanced housing since 2014. It never came.

Garden space is limited since 2014. How long do we have to wait before asking for any improvements?

It's been almost 9 years!

There will NEVER be enough houses for everyone with the current system. And despite the community voicing their opinions about this failed ward system for many years now nothing has happened to solve the problem.

But I will still voice my opinion about it.

"Island Sanctuary was never meant to be player housing." - Yeah okay... but WHY. It would have been the perfect opportunity.

Endwalker Spoiler:

The Loporrit building holodecks for housing on the moon? That would be perfect! We can decide any look we want, forest, desert, snow... but it turns out the devs were just trolling us.

When we can't have instanced housing - can we at least have more garden space? A quarter of the slots of a small house is spend for basic functions like Chocobo stable, gardening patch, Aetherite, letter box.

I want both! Housing for everyone and improvements to the housing we have.

[Raoabolic]

When we can't have instanced housing - can we at least have more garden space? A quarter of the slots of a small house is spend for basic functions like Chocobo stable, gardening patch, Aetherite, letter box.

I want both! Housing for everyone and improvements to the housing we have.

Honestly, i'm shocked that the devs have allowed crossbreeding plants to be housing exclusive. I wonder how much of the complaints will disappear if they solve this one issue by allowing crossbreeding in apartments or FC housing. (Let's be real, if it was easy to implement then it would have been done a long time ago.)

[Deveryn]

No, it was very clearly an attempt by them to ward off the bitterness people like you always bring into housing threads to derail the discussion. Should they have worded it in a more polite and less aggressive way? Certainly. But you really need to take that chip off your shoulder and take a look at the way you’ve been behaving.

It was a poor attempt. I already covered this. If it started off more polite, we wouldn't be having these back and forths.