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  1. #391
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    But I do agree though, FFXIV being rather dry on content is a major selling point for me.
    Assuming you're not being sarcastic, FF14 is not dried on content. If anything it has way too much content, and that's not a bad thing. However, despite playing it a lot, I estimate there is probably 1/4 of the content I have never played, or plan to get around to get to. For example, while I did do Deep dungeon in 2.0, I never get around to heaven on high. Heck I don't even have it unlocked, I simply do not interest in that kind of content. But I know many other people do, and that's fine.

    On the other hand, as someone who came from WoW before, I like raid, and it's still the type of content I like to play the most. So if you ask if I would like to see more raiding content, of course I do. But, I also know the content breath FF14 has, more for me meaning less for others. Therefore I content with what I have, I raid on multiple chars playing different roles to keep it fresh, and I enjoyed it. In fact among my acquaintances I know in game, I'm the one raiding the most. I have over 500+ savage kill last tier in combine between all my chars. Others like to do other activities outside of raiding, some play other games when they finish raid.


    And the point is: we're all happy. FF14 has a lot of content, I had posed this question many times before but I see none of the complainers ever want to response to: if you know another MMO have a bigger content volume than FF14, say it. Because there is none, not even WoW. WoW have a better depth in certain area, but even that can not match FF14 in term of volume. Saying FF14 is content dried is being dishosnest.


    I am like someone who go into the themepark and find that if there is a handful of attraction I like, I would be satisfied. Of course the pie dream is somehow you can enjoy each and everything at the park. But I don't tunnel vision into my own desire that believe the park should only have what I want and nothing else matter. If I walk by a ride that I have zero interest in but still see a line of other people queuing for it, then I'm still happy. I don't need to come up with some twisted logic in order with window dressing my own selfish-desire of why that ride suck and people should not enjoy it, different stroke for different folk.
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  2. #392
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Less of a "story doesn't matter" as "Our story is pretty well episodic and players replay the story each and every time they level another job, so... why not let them level through whichever episode they want, instead of making leveling a 200+ hour grind of all stories combined or disjointed in its rush when shrinking it down to something more reasonable?"
    Playing through the game after your first "Island" experience prior to the current expansion (which is less than a month old) was playing to level 10+ on the Island, then you get dumped into Battle for Azeroth. At max level you got dumped into Shadowlands, regardless of where you were in the storyline of BFA. I'd pretty much call that "story doesn't matter, players want to get to end game. period" regardless of the breadth and depth of the episodes available to you on alternate characters.
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  3. #393
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    FF14 was, and is a critical acclaimed MMO known for its story telling, the top selling that had surpassed all of its competitors. Yet you are making it sound like a third rate fan-made doujin trash.

    After 10 years the game reached it prime and become the top dog of the MMO market by using its own formula.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Assuming you're not being sarcastic, FF14 is not dried on content. If anything it has way too much content

    And the point is: we're all happy. FF14 has a lot of content, I had posed this question many times before but I see none of the complainers ever want to response to: if you know another MMO have a bigger content volume than FF14, say it. Because there is none, not even WoW. WoW have a better depth in certain area, but even that can not match FF14 in term of volume.


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  4. #394
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Assuming you're not being sarcastic, FF14 is not dried on content. If anything it has way too much content, and that's not a bad thing. However, despite playing it a lot, I estimate there is probably 1/4 of the content I have never played, or plan to get around to get to. For example, while I did do Deep dungeon in 2.0, I never get around to heaven on high. Heck I don't even have it unlocked, I simply do not interest in that kind of content. But I know many other people do, and that's fine.

    On the other hand, as someone who came from WoW before, I like raid, and it's still the type of content I like to play the most. So if you ask if I would like to see more raiding content, of course I do. But, I also know the content breath FF14 has, more for me meaning less for others. Therefore I content with what I have, I raid on multiple chars playing different roles to keep it fresh, and I enjoyed it. In fact among my acquaintances I know in game, I'm the one raiding the most. I have over 500+ savage kill last tier in combine between all my chars. Others like to do other activities outside of raiding, some play other games when they finish raid.


    And the point is: we're all happy. FF14 has a lot of content, I had posed this question many times before but I see none of the complainers ever want to response to: if you know another MMO have a bigger content volume than FF14, say it. Because there is none, not even WoW. WoW have a better depth in certain area, but even that can not match FF14 in term of volume. Saying FF14 is content dried is being dishosnest.


    I am like someone who go into the themepark and find that if there is a handful of attraction I like, I would be satisfied. Of course the pie dream is somehow you can enjoy each and everything at the park. But I don't tunnel vision into my own desire that believe the park should only have what I want and nothing else matter. If I walk by a ride that I have zero interest in but still see a line of other people queuing for it, then I'm still happy. I don't need to come up with some twisted logic in order with window dressing my own selfish-desire of why that ride suck and people should not enjoy it, different stroke for different folk.

    "Too much content".

    For people that installed the game 5 minutes ago.
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  5. #395
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    "Too much content".

    For people that installed the game 5 minutes ago.
    oh look at that, not having to deal with the typical MMO rat race grind in an endgame suddenly is somehow the fault. I think a lot of other MMOs really have such a tight grip on feeding players bs retention content without feasible end goals. I for one am glad I can go play other games and not having to be forced to be glued to one MMO. How sad for you
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  6. #396
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    "Too much content".

    For people that installed the game 5 minutes ago.
    You guys are starting to sound like you want to be addicted to XIV and play absolutely nothing else or even do absolutely nothing else.
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  7. #397
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    No, you should listen to yourself, because your post were simply a random rambling that hyperbolic to the extreme.
    I just want to point out that the game currently has over 112 hours of pure, raw cutscene. And that doesn't even take into consideration time spent talking to NPCs outside of cutscenes, doing basic fetch quests, travel from Cutscene 1 to Cutscene 2, job cutscenes, etc. Source: https://i.redd.it/463hl51ydqv91.png
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  8. #398
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I just want to point out that the game currently has over 112 hours of pure, raw cutscene. And that doesn't even take into consideration time spent talking to NPCs outside of cutscenes, doing basic fetch quests, travel from Cutscene 1 to Cutscene 2, job cutscenes, etc. Source: https://i.redd.it/463hl51ydqv91.png
    So, story is story. You only go through it all once afterwards story patches are at least a few hours of narrative content at best and the rest is just whatever. This argument doesnt hold much merit when you consider that perspective.

    Also cant dismiss that story is still content to a lot of people. Otherwise this game's design wouldve bombed a long time ago yet
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  9. #399
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    "Too much content".

    For people that installed the game 5 minutes ago.
    I installed the game in 2015 and still have things I want to do but haven't had the time to. You must be doing something wrong.
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  10. #400
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    So, story is story. You only go through it all once afterwards story patches are at least a few hours of narrative content at best and the rest is just whatever. This argument doesnt hold much merit when you consider that perspective.

    Also cant dismiss that story is still content to a lot of people. Otherwise this game's design wouldve bombed a long time ago yet
    I'm not trying to argue if it's good or bad, merely pointing out that the other poster saying the game is more akin to a visual novel with occasional gameplay is pretty accurate.
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