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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    I'd love to get dyes their own exclusive storage & can be carried anywhere, kinda like how we carry our shards/crystals/clusters everywhere. As somebody who often changes their glam plate dyes so often it's a bit of pain in the a** to keep having to find my retainers back and forth.

    Current system works... but it could be better.

    EDIT: While using Saddlebag can be an alternative, I filled mine with plethora of relic weapons to cast glams manually 70 slots ain’t enough to fit in all colors, too.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 12-13-2022 at 12:18 AM.

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    Leveling any crafter to 30 so you can craft dyes and just keep pigments stored away goes a long way to helping whatever problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post
    I think they should change tackles in general. While the specific types still exist, the inventory should only contain just 1 item for all types, similar to the dark matters for repairing. Tackles can then be downscaled so a lvl 80 one also works for lvl 50. And for lvl 90 there are still 2 versions (for the 2 scrip versions). This means its at most 11 items for tackles (8 for the first 80 levels, 2 for lvl 90, 1 for ocean fishing), but the lowest levels are often just obsolete. That way you no longer need to obtain tackles at specific vendors and barely need inventory space while still being able to fish anywhere you like. Sure, using high level tackles on lower level areas might be a bit of a waste for gil, but this rarely should be a real problem (why would you fish at a low level area normaly? if you have to do this more often you just buy a lower level tackle)

    And yes, this would normaly result in a very big list of possible tackles. But the region themselve can already restrict the list of options to only valid ones. And you can just select from that list there. So instead of having 50 options, its still just limited to for example 5. Again providing a big QoL at that part.

    Selling tackles on the market is already not a very interesting thing anyway (its usualy done to just ditch quest given tackles). So here there is no harm done either.
    By the way, versatile lures exist for use in all regions as well as freshwater / saltwater boilies for ARR. I push the versatile even more as I was recently able to hook Seven Stars in Ruby Sea.

    I've been addressing my log by region, which keeps down the amount of bait I need. It's clunky for ARR, but that's why the boilies exist. Every other expansion region is more manageable if you address it on its own. I started working on this last month and I've checked off all 3 city states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Leveling any crafter to 30 so you can craft dyes and just keep pigments stored away goes a long way to helping whatever problem.
    That's what I do; there's no real reason to keep dye stockpiled unless it's a standard 1-2 you use a lot. Even with the rare/currency-exchange only, there's really no reason to just...carry it around.

    It's always better to get what you need when you need it and sell otherwise.

    ...That said, I wouldn't be against a system like GW2 for dye...but then again, FFXIV desperately needs consumables/means of removing gil from the economy...so maybe the devs originally intended this to be a gil sink?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    That's what I do; there's no real reason to keep dye stockpiled unless it's a standard 1-2 you use a lot. Even with the rare/currency-exchange only, there's really no reason to just...carry it around.

    It's always better to get what you need when you need it and sell otherwise.

    ...That said, I wouldn't be against a system like GW2 for dye...but then again, FFXIV desperately needs consumables/means of removing gil from the economy...so maybe the devs originally intended this to be a gil sink?
    I think it was meant to be a gil sink as well as a way to manage inventory space. There are other games out there with more space, but it's to the detriment of the player and the system. The larger the personal inventory, the more to load up every time you zone. This is why things are split up as they are and the only shared space that exists is restricted to the Free Companies.

    Someone brought up retainers and I think it might be worth waiting to see what Yoshi has to say on the LL. Something big is changing with how we interact with them. This could potentially include being able to access dyes on retainerrs.
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    Space is only a problem if you keep everything. I was running low on space on my FC chest, my personal inventory, chocobo bag, retainers...

    Then I looked at what I had...most of it was mats from older expansions/base game that I was never gonna use. I went to MB them and most went for the price it would be to just vend trash it. I cleaned house on my inventory and now have SOOO much space. If I wanna make a particular thing...I get the mats real quick and call it a day.
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    Honestly even if they just gave us another saddlebag or something, that'd be awesome. The moment I started leveling crafters, my inventory went straight to hell and hasn't been normal since. The FSH bait situation is so gross, and the dyes are always filling my saddlebag. Retainers storage is nice but it doesn't travel with you so it's a little inconvenient.
    I'm surprised there are people against players having more storage options. Or, I should say I'm not surprised, since this is the final fantasy 14 forums, where people suggest nice ideas and then get told from the same groups of people (who are never official square reps because square won't even read our forum) that it's simply not possible, not necessary, not desired, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Honestly even if they just gave us another saddlebag or something, that'd be awesome. The moment I started leveling crafters, my inventory went straight to hell and hasn't been normal since. The FSH bait situation is so gross, and the dyes are always filling my saddlebag. Retainers storage is nice but it doesn't travel with you so it's a little inconvenient.
    I'm surprised there are people against players having more storage options. Or, I should say I'm not surprised, since this is the final fantasy 14 forums, where people suggest nice ideas and then get told from the same groups of people (who are never official square reps because square won't even read our forum) that it's simply not possible, not necessary, not desired, etc.
    Please stop misreading these responses as people being against more storage options. That is not the case. The fact is, if you want more storage, it's there to be purchased. It's as simple as that. There's an option to double your saddlebag and add a retainer if you like.

    I've been able to play the game with only 2 retainers and I only ever bought one extra for a couple months when I was catching up on a lot of different things. I've also been fortunate to use a tab on my FC's chest for a few other things.

    I'm so tired of hearing about how people struggle with FSH when they're trying to do everything at once. They made baits to address the ARR situation and you're overwhelming yourself for no good reason.

    They're not going to hurt their revenue by opening up more storage for free. We are trying to help you manage your inventory and you want to kick and scream til SE supposedly caves on this idea. We wish you the best of luck. If you change your mind, you know what you can do.


    Furthermore, please stop blaming others for the weakness of your suggestions. These threads come and go and barely even hit double-digit likes. We're doing you a favor by offering suggestions because these threads will never gain the traction to be visible by the team.
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    Last edited by Deveryn; 12-13-2022 at 05:45 AM.

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    People just need to do some inventory management every now and then. No need to hold on to everything
    There we go. Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Leveling any crafter to 30 so you can craft dyes and just keep pigments stored away goes a long way to helping whatever problem.
    Rather than inventory space problem, to me it's more about the interface convenience. I still have about half empty space on both of my 2 retainers and I'd still want dyes to have their own exclusive storage.

    As of now, when you'd like to color something, you have to have the actual dye pots in your personal bag. Depending on where you keep them, this means you have to go through several clicks to open/close windows and applying the color to whatever you're dyeing (Plate, Gear, Furniture, etc).

    The reason I brought up the shard/crystal/cluster as comparison is because that's the degree convenience I'm hoping to see in the future: you can be economic by storing as needed or go all out by piling as much as you want. You (general you) barely even think about 'em anymore anytime you wish to craft something, since you just naturally... carry them everywhere. On top of that, it will also free up to potentially 115 slots, but that's just a collateral benefit and of course cutting through their $$ from additional retainers.

    Carrying pigments certainly alleviate that somewhat, but it still won't cover the scripts/cowries & general purpose dyes.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 12-13-2022 at 06:27 AM.

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