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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    4 multi hour expensions when your main rival in the industry got 10 is not something to show proudly...
    Quality over quantity. The point of pride is in consistently providing updates to the game. Since ARR, the team has been running the same schedule, where WoW has more gaps. This is one of the things that actually helps keep people coming back. They know what to expect and when to expect it. They even go so far as to have Moogle Events and Live Letters help mark the time until the next update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Quality over quantity. The point of pride is in consistently providing updates to the game. Since ARR, the team has been running the same schedule, where WoW has more gaps. This is one of the things that actually helps keep people coming back. They know what to expect and when to expect it. They even go so far as to have Moogle Events and Live Letters help mark the time until the next update.
    WoW only had gap in WoD, for the rest of it cycle, you alway had patches around the same time of the years. Not that it matter really. The issues here agains is not consistency or quality, FXIV just offer poor replayability. the issues is not that we only get 1 or 2 dungeon per patches, the issues is that you most likely won't run that dungeon more than once unless you want the glamour they provides.

    FFXIV usually have shorter side quest feel less like copy-paste ''Go kill/find 10 things nearby''. That better than WoW. But it don't matter cause those quest give nothing and there no real good reason to do them. Turn out popular contents are the one who reward the players
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    the issues is that you most likely won't run that dungeon more than once unless you want the glamour they provides.
    This is a you problem for sure (very likely to be trolling). No one in their right mind only runs through a dungeon or any piece of content once or twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    This is a you problem for sure (very likely to be trolling). No one in their right mind only runs through a dungeon or any piece of content once or twice.
    Im sure you run any ARR dungeon daily for their rewards and not cause there a daily roulette that give xp cause they know no one would return to these dungeons. They even made sure to make those roulette the best xp source by far so you don't do anything else, just cause they know Sprout would be stuck forever in their Q otherwise cause, again, they don't give good reason to go back and do 70% of the dungeon, especially older one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    Im sure you run any ARR dungeon daily for their rewards and not cause there a daily roulette that give xp cause they know no one would return to these dungeons. They even made sure to make those roulette the best xp source by far so you don't do anything else, just cause they know Sprout would be stuck forever in their Q otherwise cause, again, they don't give good reason to go back and do 70% of the dungeon, especially older one
    You make it sound like it's a terrible thing, but it's the best thing an MMO developer has ever done. In past games, if you were coming in this late, you would be forced to powerlevel some other way because the older content wasn't being played AT ALL. Forget doing an older raid. No one wants to do that. Here, all the content remains pretty relevant.

    I'm past the point of needing leveling roulettes for anything. I barely even need tomes, but I still login because I still have fun. I can take everything at a chill pace.

    Can you even define exactly what it is you think you want without shitting on anything? Saying the rewards are bad doesn't really help anything. Asking for midcore is also a vague notion, which is probably covered somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    You make it sound like it's a terrible thing, but it's the best thing an MMO developer has ever done. In past games, if you were coming in this late, you would be forced to powerlevel some other way because the older content wasn't being played AT ALL. Forget doing an older raid. No one wants to do that. Here, all the content remains pretty relevant.

    I'm past the point of needing leveling roulettes for anything. I barely even need tomes, but I still login because I still have fun. I can take everything at a chill pace.
    It only a problem cause there some issues with the system. Overall yes, I agree it good that sprout don't have to wait 3 hours just to do normal Ifrit now. On the otherside, It don't really revive the content and people often cheese the roulettes. There a reason all you get 99% of the time in Alliance raid is Crystal towers ones, and why normal raid just end on Alexander 90% of the time. You want to do post ARR aliance raid? hope you'll enjoy the hours long Q for those.

    Second issues is that it give so much xp while the rest of the leveling content feel useless. Leveling a side job feel terrible, you do roulette for your daily 2 ish level then what? do the shit tier FATE and Yellow quest? Nah the best thing you can do is run the higgest level dungeon, but if you're dps hope you will enjoy the 25 ish minute it take to go in Q then do the dungeon. Now do that 3 or 4 time for a single level. They refuse to put any alternative to leveling cause otherwise, people would avoid roulette.

    Last issue is just the sync system kinda suck. Idk for you, but I kinda hate leveling a class, to let say level 76, just for them to take away all my progression just so I can do a level 15 dungeons. It dosen't help that they refuse to add new skills to classes cause of console player being limited in their hotkeys, so the more the game progress in it live cycle, the bigger the gap get between aquired skill. Some class don't even get their main gameplay mechanic until they reach level 50-70. Like I get it, there a reasons they don't give you you're entire kit, but playing Samurai with no Iajutsu is just wrong and boring.

    Also they adding trust system so people can do those with NPC now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    It only a problem cause there some issues with the system. Overall yes, I agree it good that sprout don't have to wait 3 hours just to do normal Ifrit now. On the otherside, It don't really revive the content and people often cheese the roulettes. There a reason all you get 99% of the time in Alliance raid is Crystal towers ones, and why normal raid just end on Alexander 90% of the time. You want to do post ARR aliance raid? hope you'll enjoy the hours long Q for those.
    No one gets CT 99% of the time, but there are people who are absolute babies about it 100% of the time. There are other roulettes available to achieve your goals. The same goes with raid roulette. It's true that it's generally alex or the latest tier, but that's only because it's purely optional content. They've caught onto this with dungeons. Since the tail end of ShB, all the cap dungeons have been linked to MSQ.

    I'm mostly ignoring the rest because that's all a you problem. Thank you for answering the question of whether or not you could provide constructive feedback.
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