Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[Jettinson]

World of Darkness raid yesterday with Cerberus: had someone hold the chains until he lost them, went fast to get it back as Reaper and it wasn't enough time to get back to interact until... one of the healers rescued me into the fetter, god bless him, fight saved.

[Merrigan]

I thought this was going to go a different way entirely at the start of your post. Good lord he sounds like an ass, y'all should have just kicked him instead of enabling him to get the clear. People like that don't deserve the carry, and you'll get a replacement very quickly.

How did you think it would end? Out of curiosity.

And the best weapon here is ignorance IMO... Since they acted like a child. The kick is reserved for the really rude, or insulting people.

[NekoMataMata]

How did you think it would end? Out of curiosity.

And the best weapon here is ignorance IMO... Since they acted like a child. The kick is reserved for the really rude, or insulting people.

They probably thought it was going to be a tank ego trip, judging by the first paragraph.

Impatient people...

Temple of Quarn, brutal, I'm the tank. The dungeon goes on normally, despite a rather nervous rogue. I wall-to-wall, sprint between packs, but he stubbornly stays in front and pulls by himself. Which I can understand if I was doing pack by pack, but a bit less when I take as many mobs as physically possible. Well, a bit tiring, since he doesn't bother to come back to me afterwards. But it's not dramatic, and I can get the mobs back on me. So I continue without protesting more than that.

There's nothing really wrong with this bit. Rogue/Ninja and Monk are probably the best classes for running ahead and pulling extra to the tank. They have one "mitigation" tool if you'll call it in addition to their arm's length. There's nothing super wrong with a dps pulling extra for the tank unless they go and get themselves killed or unless it's a tank in a dungeon under level 50 that's asked them not to pull big.

[Tale_Schmitt]

Started AST to try something new, my third healer after WHM and SGE. It's interesting if pretty involving, maybe because of that.

At lvl 59, Gubal Library tank is pulling a lot of folks and dying a lot sooner than I can heal him between giving out cards and using Essential Dignity and Aspected Benefic. Trying to do damage too but he's taking dmg too fast and I'm in the middle of cooldowns and when I've got them back, I can't cast multiple heal spells in row fast enough for him to survive. And he dies, three times in total during the dungeon.

The only mitigation I saw him use was Rampart, not a single Reprisal or Arm's Length. I didn't know about Paladin's other mitigations but after reading about the job, I see there are quite a few and I highly doubt he was using those considering the speed he was taking damage. He did use Clemency once.

I've decided not to say anything anymore, unless I'm being challenged with "why not healing". Otherwise I'm keeping my mouth shut and seeing how it goes and taking it as a lesson as emergency healing. But I won't let it turn into a workout, if they die, they die. I've got two other players to heal too. What I find strange though is that the tanks I have this problem with are most often Paladins. There have been great PLDs surely but if there's this problem, it is more often PLD than not. I find it strange - is Paladin some godly character in some other MMO's?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Trial Roulette: Chrysalis, as a WHM.

The DRG was a sprout. As expected, they tried to hit that LB3 to the party's dismay. Thankfully Nabriales was slippery this first time & teleported away, effectively cancelling the cast. The party chat was full of "Noooo/Stooopp/Don't LB3!!/Use it on Tear!!", but I guess the sprout wasn't reading. Because once Nabriales becomes targetable once again they charge that LB3.

"Sorry not sorry, Mr/Mrs.Sprout." I said to myself as I hit the rescue button to interrupt their cast, then conveniently Nabriales starts the tear phase.

Gubal[snip]

PLD quite possibly remains the squishiest of 4 tanks until lv82 or above where they receive gigantic self sustenance additions to their Shelltron & Spellblade phase. That being said, they shouldn't really die that quickly with proper mits and dodging red carpets.

There's also no shame in stacking asp helios and asp benefic regen at the start of big pulls if such tank do crosses your path, as it really helps stabilizing your tank while giving you ample time to sling cards, divination, spam Gravities, and let you gauge whether you need the asp helios for later pulls or not. Don't forget about Collective Unconscious too, it's a free 500p regen every 60s. Just flash it while the tank is in vicinity and they'll keep the full regen+brief mitigation.

[Tale_Schmitt]

There's also no shame in stacking asp helios and asp benefic regen at the start of big pulls if such tank do crosses your path, as it really helps stabilizing your tank while giving you ample time to sling cards, divination, spam Gravities, and let you gauge whether you need the asp helios for later pulls or not. Don't forget about Collective Unconscious too, it's a free 500p regen every 60s. Just flash it while the tank is in vicinity and they'll keep the full regen+brief mitigation.

Excellent tips, I wasn't sure if they are stackable. I will remember this.

I had another PLD at Sohm Al at lvl 60. It was painless, everything just worked. They stayed alive without me having to work for it and they even cast Clemency on me at some point. It just felt right.

[Asako]

Don't you love playing healer and getting shouted at by your team to stop dpsing and heal more when no one has died yet. I love it. If you're hp hits 0 then we'll talk but until then I'm spamming my 1 attack.

[NekoMataMata]

I'm convinced that people on Dynamis are just being asinine at this point. Non-sprout tank randomly provokes the boss and then proceeds to flip it before a cleave, killing half the party.

Someone explain to me how I'm supposed to interpret that as anything besides grieving?

[PirateRyanG]

I'm convinced that people on Dynamis are just being asinine at this point. Non-sprout tank randomly provokes the boss and then proceeds to flip it before a cleave, killing half the party.

Someone explain to me how I'm supposed to interpret that as anything besides grieving?

Could have been a new tank. May have made a mistake.

Who knows?

Everybody makes mistakes.

[NekoMataMata]

Could have been a new tank. May have made a mistake.

Who knows?

Everybody makes mistakes.

Level 80 gear. Not end game, but not new.

I don't think it's a mistake considering they were comfortable letting the other tank have aggro up until that moment. There wasn't any mechanics that forced them to spin the boss either.

Not surprised to see someone defending this behavior though...