19 jobs on one character

[FireMage]

I think people are taking this way too seriously and thinking of the worst possible scenarios for this person to show up. There are plenty of duties someone can run in this manner. The fact is we have people out their with full kits that can't make good use of all those skills, so if someone can make this word, good on them.

Of course running Gladiator or Marauder is out of the question.

You can't have it both ways. Either classes are okay past 30 (and you're supporting hard griefing which is gross) or they aren't (and you're on the correct side of the issue)

[flowerfairy]

Not having your jobstone in level 50+ content is actively griefing your team. You don't have good healing abilities to begin with, your damage output is a fraction of what it should be, and most importantly: you're pushing a larger portion of heal work to your co-healer. You can't make it "work"... you're simply sandbagging.

[Jojoya]

As a healer main, considering the state of healing, at the moment, I don't see any problem with Remolia's approach. It's not as if they won't have all they need to take care of the party for 90% of content.

On topic, I, too, am disappointed with the limitations on the job system. I was hoping to see more interactivity between jobs learned, but we ended up going in the opposite direction.

If you genuinely feel that way, go into Dead Ends as CNJ with a group of friends and see how well it goes. Get them all to ditch their job stones if applicable for that matter. If it's okay for someone to run it as CNJ then Marauder, Gladiator, Rogue, Lancer, Pugilist, Archer, Thaumaturge and Arcanist should be just as acceptable.

Or if you're not willing to burden your friends, do it with Duty Support.

I'm in the middle ground on this one. I think CNJ works fine up through Aurum Vale. You can get by without Regen, you'd only be missing Holy in Dzemael Darkhold and Aurum Vale where a typlcal Duty Finder group is going to end up keeping you on your toes for healing so it's hard to get a chance to weave Holy in, most WHM don't seem to remember they have Presence of Mind and there's not enough AoE damage going out to justify using Cure III over Medica. Those are the only 4 WHM skills learned between 30 and 49. All traits pre-50 are tied to CNJ.

But once into level 50 content and beyond, you need those WHM skills unless you're with a group of better than average players and half the player base will always be worse than average.

[Remolia]

Pay no attention to that person. They're a proper troll. I think if you can make conjurer work, then that's cool.

Its not so hard.

First, u need to fix mana issues, by focusing on piety stat, there are 3 ways: items, melds and foodbuff. Especially food buff, which does not scale on limits.
Also u can use "super-ether" that restores 18% of mana, since everyone have 10000 mana.

Second, Mouseover is not that bad, if use it right: something like /ac "Cure II" <mo> allows u to lend ur Cure 2 (that has 2! second cast) faster than average healer wakes up and send his insta-heal cast.
Also remember, that Cure 1 has 1 second cast, and u can cast it in very critical situations, and it can be casted almost on move.

Third, watch ur raid members more closely, its pve, there are no suprises: if tank gonna get a tankbuster hit, u can precast Cure 2, if boss cast AOE, u precast Medica 2, if ur raid member in danger - precast Cure 2, or cast Cure 1. If ur raid member lost the way - use rescue (with MO target).

And dont forget that u still have "swiftcast" and "lucid dreaming".

If u do everything right, people usually don't even notice, that u are a conjurer. I tested almost every popular 1-80 duties, there were some problems in 71 (or it was 73? the SHB first one) and 81 (level 83? the EW first one) dungeons, but on level 83+ these problems went away. I have not tested 90 level content yet.

[Remolia]

Of course running Gladiator or Marauder is out of the question.

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...cter/21183125/

[FireMage]

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...cter/21183125/

Oh look another garbage griefer

[Renalt]

I can see both sides of this argument. As a healer you totally could do high level content without Job Stone because you're really only missing you OGCD heals and defenses. Cure 2/Medica/Medica2/regen can very well carry you through most stuff...HOWEVER...

Other people are WELL within their rights to kick you out of the party and NOT EVEN give you a chance to run. No matter how good you are as a conjurer...a non-braindead WHM will outclass you every step of the way.

You can be a no-jobstone character all you want but only do it with people who are fine with it or friends. If you do with randoms they have every single right to kick you out. You will not have an argument at all if you try to report them for kicking you out.

[Remolia]

Oh look another garbage griefer

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...acter/9717763/

[Stasya]

For new players maybe, for me, WHM game play in normal duties puts me asleep.
But if not joking.
Using melds (adjust piety for mana), food buff, potions (we have 18% mana potion), and MO (mouseover) macros (I am a PC player) u can build a kinda fun game play around conjurer in normal duties, where u actually have to watch raid HP, use rescue, and actually focusing more on healing, instead of 11111111 glare spam.

You are one of the problem of terrible class/job system.

A troll that shows up in duty without job stone

[FireMage]

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...acter/9717763/

Yes, I'm awesome, I'm aware