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  1. #31
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    UnrealTai's Avatar
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    Laernu Tairos
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    SEs insisting we play with bad randoms all the time just because our MMR performance is high is garbage. (The current believed theory)

    I don't blame anyone for not doing ranked CC anymore. Even casual uses that MMR garbage. If our team mates are to be random then make it true random & stop pairing high MMR players with negative scorers all the time.
    The only people winning in this mode are the ones that suck at it being carried by high MMR. It's garbage.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealTai View Post
    SEs insisting we play with bad randoms all the time just because our MMR performance is high is garbage. (The current believed theory)
    Whole thing wouldn't be nearly as much of a problem if the average PvP player skill level wasn't below the skill floor.

    I know it doesn't sound nice to hear and I apologise for it, but really the average player is simply bad to the point of there being quite a literal skill chasm rather than gap.

    I love helping people getting better by training with them, giving them tips etc., but we can't help if people never approach us.
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  3. #33
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    Adeacia Lightheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Whole thing wouldn't be nearly as much of a problem if the average PvP player skill level wasn't below the skill floor.

    I know it doesn't sound nice to hear and I apologise for it, but really the average player is simply bad to the point of there being quite a literal skill chasm rather than gap.

    I love helping people getting better by training with them, giving them tips etc., but we can't help if people never approach us.
    That's probably because most people don't actually care about pvp to begin with. I know I don't and I still played a bit of CC to try it out, unranked of course. I played a few matches, then never went back.

    I'm not good at pvp because I don't care about that, but I never play it anyway so you won't find me holding anyone back either.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    That's probably because most people don't actually care about pvp to begin with. I know I don't and I still played a bit of CC to try it out, unranked of course. I played a few matches, then never went back.

    I'm not good at pvp because I don't care about that, but I never play it anyway so you won't find me holding anyone back either.
    Yeah that's cool don't worry. If you don't like it in the first place / don't really care and only played Casual/Unranked for a bit then there is no issue. I was more considering people's thoughts about how people play in Ranked at various skill tiers.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Yeah that's cool don't worry. If you don't like it in the first place / don't really care and only played Casual/Unranked for a bit then there is no issue. I was more considering people's thoughts about how people play in Ranked at various skill tiers.
    What I said could apply though. People may not care about the pvp, they just want the rewards from it. They make no attempt to be good and hope to be carried instead. I just ignore the pvp, others may not.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    What I said could apply though. People may not care about the pvp, they just want the rewards from it. They make no attempt to be good and hope to be carried instead. I just ignore the pvp, others may not.
    That is a sad truth, I agree. The game fosters this mentality in general and anytime it asks the players to do "more" people throw a fit. An actual dilemma if you ask me.
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  7. #37
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    Bureda Ghodhand
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealTai View Post
    SEs insisting we play with bad randoms all the time just because our MMR performance is high is garbage. (The current believed theory)

    I don't blame anyone for not doing ranked CC anymore. Even casual uses that MMR garbage. If our team mates are to be random then make it true random & stop pairing high MMR players with negative scorers all the time.
    The only people winning in this mode are the ones that suck at it being carried by high MMR. It's garbage.
    Casual is more sweaty than ranked for Light.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bureda View Post
    Casual is more sweaty than ranked for Light.
    I can attest to this, but I am also a massive contributor sooo...
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  9. #39
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealTai View Post
    SEs insisting we play with bad randoms all the time just because our MMR performance is high is garbage. (The current believed theory)

    I don't blame anyone for not doing ranked CC anymore. Even casual uses that MMR garbage. If our team mates are to be random then make it true random & stop pairing high MMR players with negative scorers all the time.
    The only people winning in this mode are the ones that suck at it being carried by high MMR. It's garbage.
    Ranked doesn't use MMR or any kind of ELO rating. It's literally just a range they have set for each tier since you always gain or lose the same amount. I constantly went against top 100 crystal players despite hovering I'm the 800s to 1000 crystal rating in season 1 and 2. The crystal point have no meaning to them.
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  10. #40
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    Vitalic Oni
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    - More maps
    - Better rewards aka actual awesome glamour, mounts, titles, backgrounds, dances or emotes
    - Remove top1 and top 30 (which is by now just wt and cheating anyway)

    This alone would fix A LOT of issues. Let's say we forgot all the balance issues and fact that SE has zero skill on capitalising on things like ability vfx or default movement exchange
    there is still so much potential for pvp even just for the casual areas where is capture the flag or prop hunt or battle royal blue mage
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