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  1. #21
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    UnrealTai's Avatar
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    Laernu Tairos
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    Maduin
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    It's only an overpull if you wipe.
    Just ignore TBH.

    OP comes up with ridiculous posts at least once a day just to stir crowds for attention.

    Ignore him, maybe his mother will hug him one day.
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  2. #22
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    Zomkei's Avatar
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    Decayed Corpse
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    huh? people heal in dungeons?

    everything hits like wet noodles, most of the time my OGCDs are wasted so i just press my DPS buttons
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  3. #23
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    Ayche's Avatar
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    Aychelle Tripler
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    Raiden
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    Paladin Lv 100
    No no.
    "Healer, nice healing" means that the DPS duo was doing bad job that there had to be so much healing! If they had only killed the pull faster, tank wouldn't had run out of mit!
    Crack the code.
    (1)

  4. #24
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    Curisu's Avatar
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    Chryden Speakel
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    I just remember being told a passive aggressive "nice heals" once.
    And that was a 80 dungeon were no one died but also never were at 100% HP during the boss flights.
    I didn't waste a single GCD heal, the melee used bloodbath and the RDM healed himself when he dropped below 50% HP.
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  5. #25
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    Jengo_Gonar's Avatar
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    Jengo Gonar
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PirateRyanG View Post
    You hear this so much. Well, at least I do.

    Tank overpulls, and then suddenly it is "healer, nice healing"

    It is nice to hear, but it also made me realize that this is more "tank, bad pulling".

    If a healer is at their wit's end to get you through a mighty pull, then surely it means that the tank has overpulled, right?

    I can heal through most overpulls, assuming they are manageable in normal circumstances. I fluff every so often, but it happens to the best of us.

    But, surely by commending healers for getting through big pulls, it is doing a disservice to the tanks who, in the future, believe that the way they are pulling can work with lesser/new healers.

    Yet. We aren't allowed to say that it was a bad pull, because of the risk of being reported. So us healers can do nothing but say "thanks", and then wait for the inevitable fluff-up with the next healer who can't heal through those mighty pulls and gets ganged up on.
    As DPS I commend healers when they raise me from floor when I'm clumsy.
    As tank, once I pulled more than I should have and I was expecting we to wipe and say "sorry for that" after the pull, happens we didn't wipe and I was actually amazed, lol.
    As healers, I commend the dps that I think did a good job or the tank if they did not make me regret doing healing.
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  6. #26
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    The way the tank pulls is a factor. Using the right amount of mitigation or spreading it depending on the pull. If you run out of options and the healer is slow and nervous, kiting in a circle can help give them a bit more time to heal. Self-sustain, stuns and any other options you can find to give a new healer more time to cast.

    By doing this correctly and using an invuln after, I can give a new healer 20-30 extra seconds to cast a heal on me usually. This is a lot of time and it works for me even with the newest or slowest healers on the biggest pulls.

    But I am sure many tanks don't think of some of these options or plan it this well because of lack of experience in the dungeon, so sometimes that happens and it's the tank's fault for not accounting for the healer being new.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

  7. #27
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    Avoidy's Avatar
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 83
    I mean, to be fair, in some ARR content they just let you pull the whole world and then if the tank doesn't mitigate it can feel like crap to heal through. Which is ironic, considering it's the beginning of the game and you have no skills for dealing with that. Meanwhile, on ""ExPerT"" roulette where you have 90 levels worth of skills, the pulls are locked to doubles and it's baby tier.

    But yeah 9 times out of 10 it's more than manageable if everyone does their job properly. I feel like OP is railing against big pulling at all though? I can't tell. I hope not. Anyway.
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  8. #28
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    Sqwall's Avatar
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    Sqwall Lionheart
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    I had a moment like this near the end of shadowbringers. I was on my warrior, had all my best raid gear on on, fully decked out relic and just wanted to relax in an expert roulette. Didn't feel like the stakes were incredibly high, just tank run.

    Got in there and I think it was motoyas relic or something like that...decent wall to wall pulls. I hit sprint and i'm off. One of the DPS said it's healers first time, so I just thought to myself ok i'll over mitigate to compentsate...no biggie. The whole dungeon i'm just hammering the trash packs...sprinting....onslaught...BOOKING. Literally meat blender warrior mode. Having a blast. The whole time the healer was just keeping pace...never faltering.

    Flawless run. Finish the last boss and i'm doing my comm, rolling on loot. Then the DPS that said it was the healers first run at the beginning said something in chat I'll never forget...never.

    "Just wanted to let you know you are an amazing tank, and this was the most fun WE had in a dungeon just for the sheer speed you clipped through it, looking at you're gear you didn't even need the loot or gear from here, so thanks running this with us."

    Normally I this would go to my head, but it caught me off guard....so all I said in chat was "We, Us? You all friends?"

    He mentioned actually yes. We are all in the same room actually.

    I thought oh nice. So then I just proceeded to say "Tell the healer they did a great job, they need to hear it as I kind of went crazy on the pulls and prolly didn't have time to type. They kept up really well, good job"

    Then the other DPS chimed in with "omg!"

    The first DPS said "You have no idea....we are a family that plays....the other DPS is my wife....the healer....that's our 10 year old daughter."

    I stopped thinking and mouth open, shock.

    "She is beaming right now!!" "My wife is crying!" "And you have no idea how much it means to us to share this moment with our daughter as we have been waiting for her to try out FFXIV as a family, we bought her a laptop a few months ago and she picked a healer right off the bat and it has been really hard for her. Many tanks have just been mean or offer no advice....it means a lot to her for you to say those words!"

    I didn't know what to say.

    "You did good kid....and don't ever let yourself feel like you didn't...you're trying...that's all the matters". Then I left for some reason...like I felt awkward or something like from a stranger no less. (Cheesy/corny I know...but to a 10 year old girl...I'm sure it meant a lot)

    As a father myself...this brings me to tears every time I think about it, and i'm kicking myself for not friend them after the fact.

    Obviously I got all the comms since they were all friends...but it will go down as the one moment...where I ACTUALLY deserved them. 2,220 comms strong....and 1 of those comms....always reminds me of a 10 year old gamer girl just starting out a hobby that truly helps people connect with each other, or through difficult times.

    Like me...back when I was 10 playing Super Nintendo...happy.

    It's those moments.
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    Last edited by Sqwall; 10-27-2022 at 03:28 AM.

  9. #29
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    Rowde's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Willig Rowde
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    After spending years on the internet I've acquired a certain level of appreciation for those that can successfully master bait in public forums

    However I don't really think this OP has ascended to highest tiers of master baiting just yet and it's disappointing to see that some are already slipping over this low quality bait

    I'm sure if they keep at it one day OP can be a master baiter though
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  10. #30
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    Character
    Yuki Yagami
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Hrothgar so done with being second class that they summon their own primal to give them hair.
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    Matsya is an elephant. I cant blame them for not casting the voice to a talking elephant.

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