Sick of the christforsaken Nightclubs

[LianaThorne]

Welp, I have a nightclub in game.
And I read every comment here.

I run a SFW RP Club venue where my staff RP interacts in /s and /em chat.
Not super long posts and some responses (like drink orders) are macros.
We do not offer ERP services.
We do offer drinking games which are gambling, but you get at least one 'drink' out of it win or lose.
You may very well see a few afk bees knees'ers in the club but we try very hard to engage people in activities; trivia contests, minion guessing games (where you win the minion if you guess it right), dad joke-offs, etc.

We are indeed guilty of city shouts and posting in party finder (in the 'other' category).
We have a 1 per page rule (ie if there's only one page of 'other' PFs then we only have 1 post up. If there are 2 pages, then we'll have 2 up.
We -never- do more than 2 no matter how many more pages there are, because 3 is actually also against ToS.

We pay a person to advertise (shout) for us, one time per major city every hour while we are open, in rotation to reduce our spam.
We're not open 24/7. We are open Saturday and Sunday nights for 3-4 hours.
Usually one single post but if we're doing themed, there might be two lines.

Why do we do it this way?
Because we agree with what you've all said.

We want our own place to post.
We do not want to spam city shouts.
We love RP.
I love showing off my venue's builds (I redo it monthly)
Like we have a fully staffed haunted house up on Ultros right now that you can go through with haunters in it to scare you.

We try very hard to NOT be a nuisance to those who aren't into our thing.
So, I can't apologize for anyone else,
but for our venue and myself, I do apologize if we have annoyed.

As we've discussed among ourselves, we see the problem to be more that there are SO MANY venues now, all shout chat is... is venue ads.
I don't have a solution for that because we don't really have any other place to advertise aside from PF-other.

But,
You CAN report any post in PF that is not in the right category.
SE specifically said RP groups and venues were required to use the 'no category' (which is 'other' in NA).
You can also report any ads there are more than 2 identical.
We were told that was against the rules also.

The more you report those breaking the ToS, the more likely SE is to do something to address it.


As for me and my group, we don't want to upset or offend anyone, but we would love it if you came out to RP with us.
I hope we can eventually change the scene into a friendlier, less... annoying one.
We, at least, are trying.

The moment SE gives us our own place in the PF lists...we'll be there.
(but we'll probably still be doing city shouts too).

Thanks for entertaining my TEDtalk
Yira
Hyper
Ultros

I'm sorry I'll just never view a nightclub as legit RP after seeing everyone else do it wrong.

[AshDidit]

I'm sorry I'll just never view a nightclub as legit RP after seeing everyone else do it wrong.

I actually, completely, understand your point of view.
I hate that it's become that for you.
<3

[Lustre]

If it was actual RP I wouldnt mind it but bunch of people afk dancing to a twitch stream just feels a bit cringe to me

[AshDidit]

If it was actual RP I wouldnt mind it but bunch of people afk dancing to a twitch stream just feels a bit cringe to me

I agree! No one wants to sit there listening to the shkshkshk of feet pattering on the floor and -nothing- else happening in the room.
Way too Uncanny Valley..

[Ivtrix]

Ah yes, money and digital sex. Everything I wanted in my FFXIV adventure.

you only have to pay for it if you are unfathomably bad at it

its not hard to find well written folks in the mood for.... well that

[rainichan]

Do non-venue adventurer RP FCs even exist anymore?

Yes, there are plenty on Balmung still, and I imagine there are plenty on Mateus.

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I appreciate you don't have more than 1 ad up in pf. I start blacklisting the minute I see more than 1 up, and my blacklist is getting pretty full from it. I don't mind the occasional /shout, but there are some that have like, every 5 minutes and god does that get irritating. Even worse is if it's chopped up into a multi-line macro where it's like

Advertising Miqo: HAPPENING NOW! [GENERIC NIGHTCLUB IN BLOCK TEXT THAT THE FORUMS HATE TO SHOW], located in a housing ward!
Advertising Miqo: Have fun and be social while you're /dote'd on by our cute waitstaff ♥
Advertising Miqo: Come on by for our ⒽⒶⓅⓅⓎ ⒽⓄⓊⓇ ⓈⓅⒺⒸⒾⒶⓁⓈ while you enjoy music from a random twitch dj on their twitch channel!

instead of just one line with everything containing that, even worse if it's a longer macro with more inane stuff added to it. I don't care how people get their social interaction in, and they were great during lockdowns, but now they're more annoying with aggressive advertising both in shout and pf. If it was toned down, it likely wouldn't be so bad, and if we had a RP tab in pf it'd take out clutter too.. but then it'd just be competing nightclubs for the top spot and multiple ads and no room for the places that were non-nightclub themed venues.

[Renalt]

Advertising Miqo: HAPPENING NOW! [GENERIC NIGHTCLUB IN BLOCK TEXT THAT THE FORUMS HATE TO SHOW], located in a housing ward!
Advertising Miqo: Have fun and be social while you're /dote'd on by our cute waitstaff ♥
Advertising Miqo: Come on by for our ⒽⒶⓅⓅⓎ ⒽⓄⓊⓇ ⓈⓅⒺⒸⒾⒶⓁⓈ while you enjoy music from a random twitch dj on their twitch channel!

I was about to say that this was so accurate that it hurts. Then I saw you are in Balmung too and that explains how we are getting the same exact ones. Man those are annoying. Luckily our shout chat tends to drown those out extremely quickly.

[Wasselin]

They should make a billboard area near each main city aetheryte where people can advertise. Maybe something kind of like the adventure plates so it's not just boring text.

People could advertise night clubs, events, as well FCs, linkshells, etc...

Every game has to deal with some kind of shout spam because there is no way to get the word out about groups and events otherwise.

[hydralus]

They should make a billboard area near each main city aetheryte where people can advertise. Maybe something kind of like the adventure plates so it's not just boring text.

People could advertise night clubs, events, as well FCs, linkshells, etc...

Every game has to deal with some kind of shout spam because there is no way to get the word out about groups and events otherwise.

Unless there's a crackdown on shout spam advertisements, it won't stop even if there are alternatives given. They would just use both methods. The dutyfinder is full of FC advertisements and we still see shout spam all the time.

[Renalt]

Unless there's a crackdown on shout spam advertisements, it won't stop even if there are alternatives given. They would just use both methods. The dutyfinder is full of FC advertisements and we still see shout spam all the time.

We could literally have a Night Club advertisement channel for the chat bar and they would still use Shout chat because I doubt many would have that chat section even activated.

Much like how people used the trade channel in WoW for guild recruitment even though there was a dedicated guild recruitment channel.