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  1. #141
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    This isn't the first time this has happened, the most recent one that comes to mind is the Waymark change, where you can no longer change them while in battle.
    Cheaters have always ruined games for legitimate players. If you aren't staunchly 100% anti-mod, add-on, and RMT, then I don't know what to tell you.
    If you don't know, then don't say anything. Mods do not affect you. And modders have found ways to make it entirely personal so that they no longer affect your character, only theirs. If you didn't know about this, then now you do. There's very little excuse for anyone using mods to influence your character, so it literally shouldn't affect you in any way.

    If this were a perfect world, then yeah. Modding the game, using add-ons of any kind, and engaging in RMT would be 100% problematic. But this isn't a perfect world.

    There are stuff in the game that the devs haven't moved to resolve which the fans have. Deny the fans that experience, after so much feedback has been done around it, and you'll just alienate those players. Yes, I'm referring mainly to Hrothgar and Viera, but there are plenty of other stuff, not just cosmetics. For example, do you have any idea how limited and poor the colourblind mode is? I needed specific shaders to run content because the one setting I run the game on does not allow me to see ANYTHING in E9 and P3. Trying to clear those as savages was just hell. And sure. Shaders are greenlit by the devs. But they're still a third party tool I needed to use to bridge the system, and some add-ons do quite a lot of QoL things that the game really would benefit from without giving you an upper hand in combat necessarily.

    Unfortunately, you're going to find quite a lot of people who aren't "100%" against them, because user experience is subjective and even the devs acknowledge things aren't so black and white. Yeah, by all intents and purposes, using those is against the rules and you shouldn't use them. The reverse side of the coin is that there are people who will use them to enhance their user experience in ways that aren't invasive to others' experiences. Doubly so when the devs take a long time to meet feedback.
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  2. #142
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    Cassius Rex
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    The majority of mods used by players make no appreciable changes anyway. If someone wants to enhance their graphics or make midblanders not look more boring than plain white beard, what's the harm? I tend to keep my nose clean, but I know a good deal about how they and various plugins frequently employed by the player-base work. The vast majority are in no way intrusive or harmful. There's a significant difference between these things and the blatantly exploitative garbage the RMT gatherers/sellers can do.
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  3. #143
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    Mimi Peach
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    16 pages deep so it's probably already been said, but this is a really stupid decision that punishes players from gifting people outside of our friends list. Rip to glam contests/trivia contests or whatever that includes a prize from the mogstation. NOPE! They have to be on your friends list for 72 hours before they can claim their prize and then I guess you delete each other afterwards??? I'm trying to understand the logic behind this and I'm not getting it.
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  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violet_Galaxy View Post
    16 pages deep so it's probably already been said, but this is a really stupid decision that punishes players from gifting people outside of our friends list. Rip to glam contests/trivia contests or whatever that includes a prize from the mogstation. NOPE! They have to be on your friends list for 72 hours before they can claim their prize and then I guess you delete each other afterwards??? I'm trying to understand the logic behind this and I'm not getting it.
    Did you catch the part where mounts, minion, and emotes are no longer giftable at all. Friend list time or not, doesn't matter. That's just a minor inconvenience.
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    Not to mention, after you delete them, it doesn't automatically remove you from their friend list. It only removes them from your list.

    Not that everyone cares about that factor. But some of the community has been wanting mutual removal for years.
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  6. #146
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Seems kinda backwards to punish the community as a whole for the actions of a few...and the few are at worst going to be slightly slowed down. Hopefully they retract that soon. Money speaks so let's see what happens when the numbers take a nose dive.
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  7. #147
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    Captain Helen
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    If you're wondering what this is about, the link is here: https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...7321b5c2e601d8 however I find the verbiage of it to be misleading.

    It amounts to this
    You can no longer gift these items under any circumstances:
    ~Mounts
    ~Minions
    ~Bardings
    ~Emotes
    ~Orchestrion Rolls
    ~Face Pants
    ~Eternal Bond
    ~Fashion Accessories

    You can gift these items but only by sending them directly to friends who have been your friend for over 72 hours:
    ~Fantasias
    ~Outfits
    ~Housing items
    ~Dyes
    ~Story/Job/Retainers skips
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  8. #148
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainHelen View Post
    If you're wondering what this is about, the link is here: https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...7321b5c2e601d8 however I find the verbiage of it to be misleading.

    It amounts to this
    You can no longer gift these items under any circumstances:
    ~Mounts
    ~Minions
    ~Bardings
    ~Emotes
    ~Orchestrion Rolls
    ~Face Pants
    ~Eternal Bond
    ~Fashion Accessories

    You can gift these items but only by sending them directly to friends who have been your friend for over 72 hours:
    ~Fantasias
    ~Outfits
    ~Housing items
    ~Dyes
    ~Story/Job/Retainers skips
    Why can you still send story/job skips? Are those not once per character?
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  9. #149
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    Bjartur Arnason
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post

    it's a shame they don't seem interested in taking meaningful action against those players that are engaging in the RMT transactions. As long as there's no penalty to the player for purchasing from RMT, there will be players that make certain RMT stays in business.
    This
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  10. #150
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    Krokov Reynall
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    Why can you still send story/job skips? Are those not once per character?
    I understand when gifting the learnable items are sent as codes whereas the other items are sent as items to pick up in your Moogle mailbox. So those codes could be given to others if I understood correctly.
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