YPYT is griefing. Tank role is not "puller" role

[LittleImp]

The DPS are more likely to get banned than the tank and I've seen it happen with the tank reporting them for harassment.

Never heard of a single case of this ever happening, ever. Have, however, heard of multiple cases of petty tanks getting account strikes for griefing their parties.

Its not, and unless the tank says something in chat you literally can't prove it. So good luck lol.

You see, the real magic of YPYT is that most of the people that participate in it are so incredibly emotionally stunted that they can't help themselves but mald pathetically into the chatbox after trying to wipe the party. Honestly, most of the time they basically write the report themselves .

[Jojoya]

The DPS are more likely to get banned than the tank and I've seen it happen with the tank reporting them for harassment. GM's throw the hammer at everyone so I just never go near the report function.

Never heard of a single case of this ever happening, ever. Have, however, heard of multiple cases of petty tanks getting account strikes for griefing their parties.

Sounds like it's anecdotal on both sides. How do any of you know that someone has been banned either as YPYT tank or as a DPS pulling when GMs don't share what action is taken on a report? Please don't respond with the usual "because someone else told me they got someone banned". They have no way of knowing, either. The only people who know about a ban are those who got banned for whatever reason, and they're unlikely to share unless they have to explain to their static why they won't be able to raid that week.

Short of comments made in chat to show intent to grief the group or an individual within the group, the GMs have nothing to go on.

[LittleImp]

Sounds like it's anecdotal on both sides. How do any of you know that someone has been banned either as YPYT tank or as a DPS pulling when GMs don't share what action is taken on a report? Please don't respond with the usual "because someone else told me they got someone banned". They have no way of knowing, either. The only people who know about a ban are those who got banned for whatever reason, and they're unlikely to share unless they have to explain to their static why they won't be able to raid that week.

There was someone who posted the GM gaol receipts of their SO getting banned for doing this, on these forums. I have seen receipts of these types of bans with my own eyes. I have never seen anything relating to a DPS who pulled getting banned.

Short of comments made in chat to show intent to grief the group or an individual within the group, the GMs have nothing to go on.

Like I said, someone petty enough to grief a run because their ego feels slighted almost never have the inhibitions or self control of a normal person. Every single time I can think of that I have personally experienced YPYT in game, the tank has also relentlessly cried into the chatbox about it.

[Besame]

I don't report, I blacklist the tank and back out of the group. Penalty is nothing, I can go get something to eat, drink and stretch my legs and go at it in a few minutes I don't reaally do enough dungeons to worry about it, only msq and when I really want something gear-wise so I am not putting up with a non-communicative, power-mad alpha tank that thinks he knows it all.

[Burmecia]

Tank role is not "puller" role

No, but I'd say it is "the most logical puller" or "1st choice puller" role.

In reality the dungeon is team effort. #hello_captain_obvious

No one can pull more than tank can tank through or healer can heal through or dps can murder through, simple. Any player of any role who knows what they're doing can carry, been witness to every role doing that. It's anything from super impressive to super humorous!!

I'm usually tank player of the worst sort. I don't like it when healer or dps are super duper pulling happy. I use sprint, I'm not loafind around, I want to clear dungeon fast too. So maybe it's my face, dunno. It happens almost never anyway.

Recently I have been leveling some alts through ARR as DPS. Its early game so I see both kind of tanks, newbies and wall-to-wall pulling veterans. Since I am tank main, sometimes - from muscle/visual memory - run ahead of newbie tanks without thinking like an idiot. Idiot especially, if that makes newbie healer's life uncomfortable too.
Figured that for now focus targeting the tank helps me to keep and eye on them, so i wont pull when its obviously them who wanna set the pace.

I also have been able to pinpoint my position in forever discussion about "to wall-to-wall or not". Ideal is ideal, but if the group can't do it, pull pack which has 4+ things. Can't remember each job, but I think that wes the breakpoint where all the jobs/classes start to get everything out of their spamable AOE, which is just satifying