Sick of the christforsaken Nightclubs

[NekoMataMata]

Covid and its consequences have been a disaster for the RP venue scene.

Explain this please? I'm really curious.



And on another note, I don't know what the solution is here really. Unless they put a timer on shouts and heavily moderate shouts/PF, people are just going to get around it.

If anything, I'd say if you actually wanted to make a change then I'd recommend copying them. Make the problem so bad that SE eventually has to respond. Either you'll force yourself and other like minded players out of the game and make the game more centered around these events or... you'll make people that are new to the game complain. Eventually something will be done though.

[Mat13295]

Explain this please? I'm really curious.

Prior to Covid, there was a bit more variety in venues. Libraries, cafes, nightclubs, taverns, adventurer guilds etc.

With lockdowns, nightclubs exploded in popularity and the RP scene has never really tipped back to that equilibrium. The reason they got so popular during Covid was because of the social aspect. You could emulate doing things nobody could do anymore. People were taking their IRL friends to these virtual clubs because they couldn't do so in reality anymore. People were cracking open beers while chatting, dancing and partying in the clubs. The DJ thing started because of Covid. People wanted to interact with a DJ like in the clubs they went to IRL, so they would open twitch and make requests. Now as Lockdowns abated, most of these clubs started losing popularity because the social aspect was the primary reason they went and they could get that talking to people out in the real world and going to actual nightclubs and bars again.

And now they remain dominate in the venue scene for a myriad of reasons. Trend chasing, ERP services, RMT services, Glamor contests etc.

I miss the Libraries and Cafes because I could actually go to them. Everyone bans Lalas from Nightclubs because they're all ERP hubs.

[Midareyukki]

Everyone bans Lalas from Nightclubs because they're all ERP hubs.

I got barred from going to a bar venue for being a Hrothgar. Because "oh it's zoophilia".

...sis, even if it were, I just want to hang out and roleplay, I have zero interest in what lurks in your panties.

[NekoMataMata]

Prior to Covid, there was a bit more variety in venues. Libraries, cafes, nightclubs, taverns, adventurer guilds etc.

With lockdowns, nightclubs exploded in popularity and the RP scene has never really tipped back to that equilibrium. The reason they got so popular during Covid was because of the social aspect. You could emulate doing things nobody could do anymore. People were taking their IRL friends to these virtual clubs because they couldn't do so in reality anymore. People were cracking open beers while chatting, dancing and partying in the clubs. The DJ thing started because of Covid. People wanted to interact with a DJ like in the clubs they went to IRL, so they would open twitch and make requests. Now as Lockdowns abated, most of these clubs started losing popularity because the social aspect was the primary reason they went and they could get that talking to people out in the real world and going to actual nightclubs and bars again.

And now they remain dominate in the venue scene for a myriad of reasons. Trend chasing, ERP services, RMT services, Glamor contests etc.

I miss the Libraries and Cafes because I could actually go to them. Everyone bans Lalas from Nightclubs because they're all ERP hubs.

Oh wow, this was actually really interesting. I've seen a few cafes, and even spas on the PF/in shouts before but not a lot compared to the night clubs.

[Ishe-P]

Prior to Covid, there was a bit more variety in venues. Libraries, cafes, nightclubs, taverns, adventurer guilds etc.

With lockdowns, nightclubs exploded in popularity and the RP scene has never really tipped back to that equilibrium. The reason they got so popular during Covid was because of the social aspect. You could emulate doing things nobody could do anymore. People were taking their IRL friends to these virtual clubs because they couldn't do so in reality anymore. People were cracking open beers while chatting, dancing and partying in the clubs. The DJ thing started because of Covid. People wanted to interact with a DJ like in the clubs they went to IRL, so they would open twitch and make requests. Now as Lockdowns abated, most of these clubs started losing popularity because the social aspect was the primary reason they went and they could get that talking to people out in the real world and going to actual nightclubs and bars again.

And now they remain dominate in the venue scene for a myriad of reasons. Trend chasing, ERP services, RMT services, Glamor contests etc.

I miss the Libraries and Cafes because I could actually go to them. Everyone bans Lalas from Nightclubs because they're all ERP hubs.

I really like this implication that not only have players optimized the fun out of raiding, but they kind of did that to the RP scene too.

[Midareyukki]

I really like this implication that not only have players optimized the fun out of raiding, but they kind of did that to the RP scene too.

To be fair, it's not really hard when the game doesn't offer much to RP with apart from chats and emotes. Lore in the game is often cast aside, with moments in the MSQ or just sheer design contradicting the lore overall. So there either isn't much to interact with, with whatever's left being too boring and vague for the average person to try something with it. Or they just see the amount of stuff you can, feel overwhelmed and don't bother trying something deeper. ERP is just easier, no need for lore, just go in, hook up, done.

We definitely need something more than just this. Decorating a house is great and all, but roleplaying should have some more tools to it. Bard had a neat idea with Performance, why not expand on that in some other gimmicky jobs? Looking cutely at that Astrologian and its deck, as well as the orrery that they can, y'know, read the horoscope like a suburbian mom? Having a more organized chat for roleplaying doesn't hurt either. And having the lore be more consolidated than just "read it up in a physical copy or scrounge every bit of text for lore". As well as making said lore interactive, and not just cosmetic. AND not make Lore "something you can dismiss" like the absolute bull that is current Hrothgar lore. "Sharlayan misconceptions" my. front. bottom.