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  1. #1561
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    Tiramu's Avatar
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    Tira Mu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    My biggest gripe lately with DF, is tanks that stop at the FRONT of the second pack of enemies rather than pulling through them so that everything is in a tighter cluster for those sweet, succulent, AoEs to hit. Had it happen on the last 3/4 Expert roulettes I ran, and when things are super spread because of it, not all AoEs will hit everything(especially the targeted ones).

    Why do people like to stop in front of the second pack, grabbing them still, but keeping them split?

    If you are referring to what I think you are then this bugs me too. Also, there is an open area right next to us, but you're stopping in an enclosed space and these mobs have hard hitting AOE's or directionals that everyone is being smacked about by. Then they are surprised when the group wipes.

    Another thing that bugs me are tanks who dont commit to their pull, they stop and start constantly, moving off again with a half damaged back of mobs. They do realise that a lot of DPS jobs have windows to use their bread and butter skills? Ive seen wipes happen because the tank couldnt commit to their pull and the DPS were down. Obviously thats only really a risk with packs who need to be taken down quickly, but still.
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  2. #1562
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    That Healer, could have waited the few seconds for that Tank, to grab aggro, then attack...

    But yeah.
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  3. #1563
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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Cassius Rex
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Extra points when you're mid-pull and one of the DPS starts dumping all of their CDs into a single mob. Somehow they're always surprised when the mob that's probably only been hit once or twice by the tank decides they look tasty.
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  4. #1564
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    Cain Andleft
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    Malboro
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    My biggest gripe lately with DF, is tanks that stop at the FRONT of the second pack of enemies rather than pulling through them so that everything is in a tighter cluster for those sweet, succulent, AoEs to hit. Had it happen on the last 3/4 Expert roulettes I ran, and when things are super spread because of it, not all AoEs will hit everything(especially the targeted ones).

    Why do people like to stop in front of the second pack, grabbing them still, but keeping them split?
    Bonus points to the ones who stop at the FRONT of the pack and then CLEAVES the party with AoE because they didn't pull further up.
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  5. #1565
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    Zebra Rune
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HolyReign View Post
    OR

    That Healer, could have waited the few seconds for that Tank, to grab aggro, then attack...

    But yeah.
    Ooor if a healer somehow manages to pull off the tank, it OGCD heals itself and runs after the tank and everyone moves on with their lives because the tank doesn't even need to target a mob to draw aggro on it due to how faceroll easy dungeon tanking is.
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  6. #1566
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    Anienai's Avatar
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    Anienai Talenca
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Extra points when you're mid-pull and one of the DPS starts dumping all of their CDs into a single mob. Somehow they're always surprised when the mob that's probably only been hit once or twice by the tank decides they look tasty.
    This and regen queens.
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  7. #1567
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    What's a regen queen? I've never seen that term lol
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  8. #1568
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    What's a regen queen? I've never seen that term lol
    I’m going to assume they refer to the healers that always slaps you regen thus pulling aggro away from you when it ticks at improper time… Which shouldn’t be an issue anymore. They’ve removed all HoT enmity a while ago so only the initial ‘buff’ application generate the enmity.

    On the topic of YPYT… you (general you) just need to press 1 (ONE) single button to pick up the aggro. Even if people do grab it earlier, most of them are smart enough to drag them into your AoE = Both side wins. What so hard about that? You trying to ‘punish’ them is quite possibly the major reason the group wipes, if it happens at all.
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  9. #1569
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    Tiramu's Avatar
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    Tira Mu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anienai View Post
    This and regen queens.
    This is how some healers work. Regen the tank, DPS and top up with heals. Regen + Medica if required, more DPS. Or boredom, because the tank is actually good so you're just looking for something, anything, to do.

    Aggro shouldnt, and rarely is, an issue if the tank is on their crowd control and/or the healer doesnt freak out. The same issue can easily appear with DPS in these situations anyway. You can interchange them, and is, again, largely down to crowd control.
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    Last edited by Tiramu; 10-01-2022 at 02:45 AM.
    WHM / BLM / SMN / NIN/ DNC / Omnicrafter and Gatherer

  10. #1570
    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Padudu Moro
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    Zalera
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HolyReign View Post
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    That Healer, could have waited the few seconds for that Tank, to grab aggro, then attack...

    But yeah.
    Or the tank could just get over himself and aoe the mobs like any other reasonable human being with the emotional capability to not throw a tantrum over a regular dungeon lol.

    When I'm dps/healing and having gone through like over a hundred of these dungeons at this point, shit just happens and you're just more used to running ahead and walling more often than having to stop-wait-stop-wait lol
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