Helare shortage in PF: what would bring you back?

[FOD_GS]

A complex rotation, maybe akin to SAM to not be overly-complex. Variable cast times to break monotony. Positionals on the spells to encourage movement and spatial awareness. Penalty for missing positionals (you don't get a lily, your combo breaks). Healing potency for oGCD skills locked behind successfully executing the spell rotation and positionals.

[T-Owl]

Excuse me how dare you suggest the flawless sanctity of FFXIV be ruined by dirty WOW ideas, don’t you know that game is dead and all the community problems in 14 are entirely caused by ex WOW people even when they have both sides of the opinion /s

I play both games and to be honest, I think FF14 is kinda superior in terms of class design, gameplay customization and different difficulty options for challenging content, while its story kinda sucks as compared to WoW.

[Zolvolt]

I haven't stopped playing healer,but have considered it.

I would really like
-some healers to have complex dps rotations
-some healers to just be labeled "the complex pure healer" or "the complex barrier healer"

Working soft-enrage heal checks into more fights. Usually these are reserved for the end of a tough fight but they should put these in the middle of the fight more. Hell, put 2 or 3 of these phases in per fight. Give me a reason to desire piety, I dare you.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I don't think I'll stop healing. But my desire to jump into PF as one has been virtually nonexistent since late ShB for one sole reason: the number of uninformed, stubborn folks who knows very little about healings & mitigations felt more prominent as time goes by. These are the folks who sits on their party utilities like Feint, Addle, Divine Veil, Temperance, etc unused at crucial times then very likely to blame their (co)healer when $h!t hits the fan.

Maybe if they remove Addle/Feint off the DPS and give Virus back to Healers then I'd consider it more just slightly; basically give me more influence over party's mits and healings. If the dev ever thought about removing utilities from healers based on the sole reason to reduce stress from the role gameplay then I really think they've utterly failed to achieve that. Teaching players the importance of these utilities in general would've been healthier in normal contents that are optional (not required for MSQ) but easier than EX level of difficulties.

An actual DPS rotation outside Energy Drain opti & Phlegma Balls would be a godsent but I have zero hopes they will actually give us these. If they do, then it doesn't have to be uber complex---anything but 1 button ad nauseam. So long it does enough damage to contribute reasonably for a clear then I don't care if they result in 1-3% dps variance because not falling asleep while playing my favorite mmo role is the best reward I can think of right now.

[SweetPete]

I haven't stopped playing healer,but have considered it.

I would really like
-some healers to have complex dps rotations
-some healers to just be labeled "the complex pure healer" or "the complex barrier healer"

Working soft-enrage heal checks into more fights. Usually these are reserved for the end of a tough fight but they should put these in the middle of the fight more. Hell, put 2 or 3 of these phases in per fight. Give me a reason to desire piety, I dare you.

If healers get more complex dps rotations then all dps roles need to have a few self heals on a moderate cooldown because I refuse to die to raid wides because the healers are to fixated on just doing damage. That’s the only way I will welcome more complex rotations from healers. Sorry if that upsets people but that’s how I feel.

Everything else in this post I sorta agree with.

[Semirhage]

Choices. Brain activity. Something to pay attention to that isn't "content" created by incompetent party members constantly standing where they shouldn't. A kit that has more than a half dozen copies of the same simplistic push bars rightward spells. A reward worth working toward that isn't 111111111111111. Content that isn't designed around making my contribution as superfluous as possible while not entirely deleting me perhaps? Not feeling like a rezbot because any remotely difficult content just kills people for making mistakes. Not needing tape to pry my eyes open as I cast one spell over and over and over and over and over and over and over again in solo duties and in dungeons?

All of the above would be nice.

[Deceptus]

Engaging gameplay during healing downtime.

2111111111111 isn't it.

If healers get more complex dps rotations then all dps roles need to have a few self heals on a moderate cooldown because I refuse to die to raid wides because the healers are to fixated on just doing damage. That’s the only way I will welcome more complex rotations from healers. Sorry if that upsets people but that’s how I feel.
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Most DPS outside of Ranged Physical DO have significant healing / shielding, and if not that they have mitigation.

[ty_taurus]

Next healer should be the Arithmetician so we can increase the lowest common denominator and get better healer gameplay.

[Punslinger]

It's mostly well known that PF savage has a healer shortage currently. Whether this is because of the pure/barrier split, or an influx of new players not wanting to heal, or just healers not enjoying healing anymore I'd like to pose a question.

What would bring you back to healing and if you don't currently heal, what would make you want to heal?

git revert every_healer_change_after_HW
git commit -m "Made healers stop sucking"
git push

[Corbeau]

What would bring you back to healing and if you don't currently heal, what would make you want to heal?

Mythic Plus.

Unless you specifically meant raids, in which case lmao rip.