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    Voidedge_Ragna's Avatar
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    The main thing i was really upset about was the failed opportunity to use "you are not alone" or to be more precise the weak quest the implemented. FFIX You are not alone part of the story was an outstanding masterpiece in which the protagonist questions themselves and is supported and backed up by the party.

    But the version we got was "walk up the shiny stairs"

    That and Sad bird came out from nowhere and the fight was lame and thats coming from someone who has a meteion plush because i like her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidedge_Ragna View Post
    The main thing i was really upset about was the failed opportunity to use "you are not alone" or to be more precise the weak quest the implemented. FFIX You are not alone part of the story was an outstanding masterpiece in which the protagonist questions themselves and is supported and backed up by the party.

    But the version we got was "walk up the shiny stairs"
    That part I was rather upset over. Like I can see exactly the sort of thing they were going for and it could have worked. But this game has so many characters over close to a decade, I didn't remember half of them or what their voices sounded like. That moment fell flat for me as I couldn't connect a lot of the disembodied voices to who they were supposed to be. Maybe it hits differently for people who just very recently burned through ARR to EW, but as someone who was on and off playing since ARR launch I just couldn't connect them all and didn't get much of an impact from that moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaonis View Post
    That part I was rather upset over. Like I can see exactly the sort of thing they were going for and it could have worked. But this game has so many characters over close to a decade, I didn't remember half of them or what their voices sounded like. That moment fell flat for me as I couldn't connect a lot of the disembodied voices to who they were supposed to be. Maybe it hits differently for people who just very recently burned through ARR to EW, but as someone who was on and off playing since ARR launch I just couldn't connect them all and didn't get much of an impact from that moment.
    I don't know - even having played the MSQ in a relatively short space of time (December 2021 - end of March this year) that 'walk' did upset me. Mostly because, so far as I recall, the first and last voice we hear is Arbert's:
    First: "If you need a push, I'll be right there behind you"
    Last: "Lets finish this"

    I mean, I remembered most of the voices inbetween but the fact that the first and last voice was Arberts..... well, part of us or not, he really was with us every step of the way.

    The choice of line spoken by Hien was interesting though - I would've assumed he would have spoken the line he spoke immediately AFTER the one we heard - "We who yet walk the path should not think too much on the destination. When the hour arrives, we shall welcome what comes with open arms."
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidedge_Ragna View Post
    The main thing i was really upset about was the failed opportunity to use "you are not alone" or to be more precise the weak quest the implemented. FFIX You are not alone part of the story was an outstanding masterpiece in which the protagonist questions themselves and is supported and backed up by the party.

    But the version we got was "walk up the shiny stairs"

    That and Sad bird came out from nowhere and the fight was lame and thats coming from someone who has a meteion plush because i like her.

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    I know FFXIV is the fanservice game but I don't know why people keep insisting on stuff like this.
    Why would you want something that not only has nothing to do with XIV to show up out of nowhere at the end but also is so intrinsically tied to another game that it would distract you from what you're playing to make you think of it as well as inherently cheapen the moment in said game since it's now also tied to an important part of XIV.
    I'll be honest I've never really been a big fan of the fanservice in the MSQ. It's one thing to have a raid series like Crystal Tower or Omega since that's like side content so it's just stuff for fun, but stuff like every final boss except for Endsinger being from another Final Fantasy game, rather than getting a unique transformation Elidibus just turns into the Warrior of Light from FF1, Hien's theme has to be the same as Cyan's from FF6 even though they're not remotely the same character... it just takes me out of the game when this stuff happens and makes it feel like it can't stand on its own two legs. I've seen it defended as "it's a Final Fantasy game all of them do it!" but I think people overestimate just how much stuff actually carries over between these games. Usually it's nothing more than classes, magic spells and summons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thenightvortex View Post
    It would be cool to have a rejoining with the 13th caused by the scions’ meddling and attempts to restore it, as unlikely as it is.

    6.5 will probably be as significant as the final days.
    Yeah, there's plenty they could do that'd be cool, much as was the case with SHB - so much potential that could be realised but likely won't be given their past track record. I believe Yoshi would much rather be working on this hypothetical MMO he's referenced a few times now, and who knows, perhaps 16 will be his proving ground for it - for the approach he would take with it? Hmm... best not to dose up on hopium. Either way, rather than get my hopes up that things will improve in a direction to my liking, I consider the rational course to simply observe what they do with each patch, and otherwise just keep it on the backburner.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 09-20-2022 at 09:39 AM.
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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