Patch 6.21 - DPS Roles & the State of Endgame Balance

[Cetonis]

MCH & DNC Abyssos (Savage) rDPS Standings: Sep. 1, 2022 - Sep. 15, 2022

The combined savage numbers are not going to be a very good metric right now, because you're going to have a lot of gear and group skew going on.

10,000 of the parses being factored into DNC there are from P8S1 kills, while only 600 of MCH runs are. Naturally those DNC players are going to have better gear and better groups than the ones comprising almost the entirety of the MCH runs in that number.

As for normal raids, as you pointed out, NM groups are not that strong, which is exactly why those parses are a reasonable approximation of a job's performance with a suspect group. The factors you cite should apply equally to whatever job you might queue in as, it's not like MCH is magically going to be paired with stronger players who care more.


The group quality question is further complicated because we shouldn't conflate "50th percentile player" with "50th percentile group". They are not the same and what we actually care about is the latter.

One thing you could look at is the early fight nDPS gap - this essentially informs how much rDPS value BRD/DNC need to be getting to catch up to MCH. It's around 1300-1400, which is in the ballpark of what a Bard might get on a not-great run. Dancer appears to usually be a bit ahead of that, which might be reasonably explained by the early tier gear skew. Though there was that Devilment / Starfall buff, so perhaps both BRD and MCH could use a 1% catch-up or something.

In any case, it's not a melodramatically awful situation within-the-role if we're talking 1% tweaks. It feels like the volume of complaints and memes about MCH would be more appropriately aimed at RDM/SMN, or RPR.