Unpopular opinion on G'raha Tia (spoilers)

[XiRon]

Theres been a lot of talk of friendship in this thread and yknow...I've never once in my two years playing the game thot of any of the scions has friends tbh.
Not once in all the msq do any of them ever ask you where you're from (we are NOT native to limsa gridania or uldah bc playing aura viera or hrothgar in Eorzea aside, we ARRIVE in those states via carriage or boat) or ask about your family, or anything else friends tend to know about each other. Not even your damn favorite color for gods sake.
The only crap they ever ask us about is what dungeons we've been thru or what monsters we've slaughtered ("tell me about your adventures"). Do they really know you as a person?
Ofc not thats all "fill it in yourself" gpose screenshot on twitter bait. And that totally sucks because it'd be nice to get characterization we actually have agency over (would that I could swat the pen out of the writing teams hand when they decided we're Azem).

[MagiusNecros]

Graha and Thancred should of died in ShB. They hit their peak and the sendoff would have been perfect. Or at least give Thancred the kill on Ranjit. Thancred got Vegeta'd so hard it's not even fair.

Oh well. At least Thancred went Metal Gear with Bozjan catbois.

Graha just changed into this insufferable WoL #1 fan and would make Haurchefant roll in his grave.

[XiRon]

Graha and Thancred should of died in ShB. They hit their peak and the sendoff would have been perfect. Or at least give Thancred the kill on Ranjit. Thancred got Vegeta'd so hard it's not even fair.

Oh well. At least Thancred went Metal Gear with Bozjan catbois.

Graha just changed into this insufferable WoL #1 fan and would make Haurchefant roll in his grave.

Thancred shouldve died just because of how trash his shb story is. "I abuse a teenager emotionally because Im sad my daughter who was only 10 years my junior got zapped, feel bad for me" I think Ryne shoulda kicked him and Ranjit to death because they didnt value her at all.

[IkaraGreydancer]

I'm curious how much of G'raha's screen time is him fanboying like so many of you claim. Seeing as thats all some of you see him as as he apparently doesn't do anything else. I could point to plenty of instances where thats not the case but this is the OF.

[MagiusNecros]

Thancred shouldve died just because of how trash his shb story is. "I abuse a teenager emotionally because Im sad my daughter who was only 10 years my junior got zapped, feel bad for me" I think Ryne shoulda kicked him and Ranjit to death because they didnt value her at all.

Well Ryne isn't the Minfilia he loved and Venat sent her to her death. Entirely out of his control. Minfilia got robbed.

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Graha mostly turns into a fanboy in Endwalker. In Shadowbringers he was fantastic as the Exarch.

[Kozh]

Thancred shouldve died just because of how trash his shb story is. "I abuse a teenager emotionally because Im sad my daughter who was only 10 years my junior got zapped, feel bad for me" I think Ryne shoulda kicked him and Ranjit to death because they didnt value her at all.

Stop exaggerating jfc. He didn't abuse her. Sure he may act cold and can be a bit too harsh sometimes, but it's hardly an abuse. If he abused her, do you think ryne will end up the way she is? And y'all love to act like he does that for the full five years he was with her when in truth him being distant was only happened after the two of them talk to minfilia. We don't know the exact time, but at best it was a year or two ago.

Also, minfilia isn't a daughter to him, but a sister.

[XiRon]

Stop exaggerating jfc. He didn't abuse her. Sure he may act cold and can be a bit too harsh sometimes, but it's hardly an abuse. If he abused her, do you think ryne will end up the way she is? And y'all love to act like he does that for the full five years he was with her when in truth him being distant was only happened after the two of them talk to minfilia. We don't know the exact time, but at best it was a year or two ago.

Also, minfilia isn't a daughter to him, but a sister.

Did you forget that in Twine Ryne gets so distraught she very seriously considers giving up her life by letting Minfillia take over just to get away from how horrid Thancred treats her or nah?

[ReynTime]

Thancred shouldve died just because of how trash his shb story is. "I abuse a teenager emotionally because Im sad my daughter who was only 10 years my junior got zapped, feel bad for me" I think Ryne shoulda kicked him and Ranjit to death because they didnt value her at all.

Abused how? His problem was being over protective and needing to get over the fear of losing her. It wasn't nice, but it's completely understandable how he'd end up that way given he saw "Minfilias" get slain again and again in the First. Thancred was already trying to get over what he considers his failures since joining the Circle of Knowing, then he goes into the first and finds himself failing several times.
His behavior makes perfect sense. It's hard to believe people who think he was being "abusive" even have parents.

Ryne's stress was a lot less about "Thancred being a meanie" and more about the stress of being an oracle of light. Without Thancred she would be having REAL abuse by Eulmore.
And lastly, Thancred accepted her decision to stop trying to carry Minfilia's legacy right away once she made the decision. He wasn't forcing anything.

[Iscah]

I do think Thancred was – not deliberately abusive, but still – unnecessarily harsh on Ryne and not good at supporting her, and it could be read as emotionally abusive even though I don't think the writers intended it to come across that way. There are times where he basically refuses to comfort her when she's upset.

[MagiusNecros]

Thancred accepted Minfilia was dead. He was distant to not grow attached because Ryne is not the same person. This isn't hard.