Do people on these forums only complain endlessly?

[VelKallor]

Execution is ever the matter people are most ignorant of in their suggestions. To try and tell them is to be a white knight for CBU3.

"They have ample time, money and resources. They should be able to do this thing, especially since those people did this thing." Infrastructure and workforce don't exist. Everything is a click away from appearing on your computer or at your door.

You got that right, not to mention that after reading that little screed, I did a brief review, and came to the conclusion that said "outline" would make the MSQ a lot longer..and we are talking hours here. It never ceases to amaze me that people are so clueless as to not realise that you dont just "sit down" and write a "better MSQ"..i cant even BEGIN to assess the logistics in even starting a project like this, nor the needs and requirements of hundreds of people to make it happen.

That cast list at the end of the MSQ? Is who made it happen, both in Japan and overseas...then lets throw the pandemic's wrecking ball into the mix. Aveyond reminds me of a policy I had as a supervisor, come to me with a problem you better have at least two separate possible solutions, because you aint walking up to my desk and just tossing it to me to fix.

"Just do it"

NOTHING is that simple. Nothing.

My GOD the work that must have been involved just to get the damned VOICE ACTORS coordinated.

There was a post earlier on the "dubious claim" the SE staff play the game as we do..and I remember the slight delay to the expac, YoshiP said he played it ALL end to end for extra QA, so did his staff, all of whom have as much passion for the game as he does.

Want to hear the funny part?

IF they had done even HALF of what that guy suggested, the VERY FIRST complaint would be "The MSQ is too long..."

Seriously, it's just ridiculous. Does the game have flaws? Yes, all games do. Nothing is perfect, it never is. But, to be honest? Endwalker has been and is a blast, i loved the MSQ, the theme of "forge ahead" resonates with me heavily, as it did with so many others.

I get there are issues, there always are, but the bloody minded negative attitude here at times beggars belief.

[VelKallor]

official forums not some third party

Some third party" has been just about every games magazine and website out there

I mentioned Metacritic earlier, they have what is it...over 1300 positive reviews.

Negative?

If you're looking for a PvP scene in an MMORPG. Final Fantasy is not for you.
If you like drawn out cut scenes and want to play an RPGMMO not an MMORPG, then this game is for you.

Awwwww poor little ganker....the rest of the negative reviews?

Were left by people who had login issues at the start...and one guy angry his dps meter wasnt allowed...

Heres one that caught my eye....

Lack of endgame content : no raid, no expert craft, no tribe reputations.

There was endgame content at the start, there was a raid at the start, expert crafts came later with the first tier as they always do, the reputations again came later with the Arkasodara, again as they always have in every expac.

Gamespot

For all that Endwalker suffers from pacing issues and the sheer amount of plot lines it lobs at us, an earnestness carries the entire story. ( fair comment, I had the same to a point but that didnt detract from the overall experience )

Endwalker is jubilant in its sincerity, and tender in the way it treats life and death, mankinds' inevitable failing and flaws. It doesn't shy away from grand proclamations that would come across as cheesy if it was any other game, with any other cast of characters

But because it's FFXIV and because the Scions are people who accompanied us through Ala Mhigo's revolution, averting the apocalypse on the First, and much more, Endwalker's loud and bold demands for hope, light, and love fall more on the endearing side rather than hamfisted sentimentality

Endwalker is a fitting, emotional conclusion to a years-long journey for us adventurers, and I can't wait to see what's next.

Neither can I.

[aveyond-dreams]

Some of the posts in this thread have me half-tempted to create another rewrite or future expansion concept. I’m someone who quite literally sits down and just does things. So are the devs that went rogue and delivered things to us like Viera/Hrothgar hats along with male Viera when Yoship had no plans to ok or give his approval to any of those projects. Sometimes you just have to do it anyway. Yoship can be wrong about what is best for the game and that’s ok. That’s where other people can provide a fresh perspective, myself included.

I’m quite confident that I can come up with a number of concepts that would appeal to core Final Fantasy fans, especially those whose interests align with mine. I enjoy long games but they have to have stories that are constructed with more care than Endwalker’s was. It wasn’t their best work, and they need to learn from the many mistakes that have occurred in 6.0 and 6.1.

6.2 was able to really start taking the main story seriously with less jokes and out of place slice of life elements, but there are numerous concerns as to what the story will do and what state the world will be left in at the end of these patches. As far as I’m concerned, the best outcome is Golbez winning and permanently benching some of the Scions and for the voidsent hordes to wreck havoc on the Source, with 7.0 taking place in a much-needed high fantasy setting along with a fresh cast that includes Zero, and only Vrtra if he gets new personality traits besides wanting to be with his sister again. After a decade of Alphinaud, the last thing we need is a new “little brother.”

I did create one 7.0 concept already which takes place on a Mist Continent-inspired Meracydia, which can be found here.

[VelKallor]

Some of the posts in this thread have me half-tempted to create another rewrite or future expansion concept.

Yeah and I can write a battle plan for the 34th Armoured Regiment to conquer Mars...only I dont have an army, Im not a General and I dont have any tanks. Oh well.

As far as I’m concerned, the best outcome is Golbez winning and permanently benching some of the Scions

Do they get hamburgers whilst they sit there?

After a decade of Alphinaud, the last thing I need is a new “little brother.”

I dont see any reason to "bench" any of them. What you want? Isnt what others want. You keep harping on this theme, that the Scions need to be "replaced". Why? On what basis? By what metric? By whose lights?

What makes you think that doing this wont be a massive mistake? Whats your premise? Based on.....?

Yoship can be wrong about what is best for the game and that’s ok. That’s where other people can provide a fresh perspective, myself included.

Rightttt..................

Going to add to this

Had you forgotten..or didnt you know...that it isnt ONE person writing, its an entire team? That an MMO of this size isnt done by one person alone? That to even BEGIN to create an MSQ like this, it goes through a dozen or more stages, from scripts to storyboards to music to voice actors to overview and revision and rewrite, that EACH stage and EACH scene is worked out in massive detail before pen goes to paper?

[Jirah]

Gonna sound ironic but Can we let this post die? It does nothing but aggravate others and poses literally no purpose and isn’t even game related, just some shill angry that people have opinions.

let it die let it die, let it shrivel up and die

[hagare]

Do they get hamburgers whilst they sit there?

Only Golbez gets to munch on a burger.

[Deveryn]

Only Golbez gets to munch on a burger.

I can see it now. G'raha shows up at the last minute and offers him a burger. He stares at. A little void gate appears and sucks in the burger

[Axxion]

Some third party" has been just about every games magazine and website out there

I mentioned Metacritic earlier, they have what is it...over 1300 positive reviews.

Negative?



Awwwww poor little ganker....the rest of the negative reviews?

Were left by people who had login issues at the start...and one guy angry his dps meter wasnt allowed...

Heres one that caught my eye....



There was endgame content at the start, there was a raid at the start, expert crafts came later with the first tier as they always do, the reputations again came later with the Arkasodara, again as they always have in every expac.

Gamespot



Neither can I.

Well,l here is the the thing with Metacritic, look at the dates of the posts. I found a few of them and they where surprising. Some of the post dates where a day after the expansion released. And you know what ? there positive reviews should not have existed. Hear me out, "Endwalker solidifies FF14s Status as the king of the mmo genre - a masterpiece through and through, put together through years of love, crafted with passion and pure magic." posted a day after the release. keep in mind that end walker was having some issues with log in queues and to top it off the game had a issues based on some bug that was in 1.0. Keep checking the "positive" reviews and notice that some of them only reviewed one game and one game alone. Could that be actually players? yes. Could those be bots just wanting to the review for it? yes but we cannot tell.

You mentioned that you a mentor and all you can see is praise from new players. My question is to you is how many of them did the road to 90 and/or bought the skip potions just to catch up with there friends?

You saying endwalker had endgame at the start? You are going to tell me and everybody here on the release date of endwalker we had trials but not the Pandaemonium that was on the 21st not day one same as the 24 man raid was not a day one . ( the way you word it sounds like it was a day one thing)

Want to talk about story? take the boja story and how that ended. With all the negative feedback of that story we got a cheep ending for it.

Dps meters will not be a thing regardless yoshi himself said that was not going to happen and if that person really believed that on them

PVP thats up to the player. I for one enjoy pvp in this game and i know other people do and yes some do not like them either way feed back is feedback.



And my point of the the official forum is as follows. Every live letter, every real life fanfast he said place feed back in the forums not matter what. Which we did. Every time someone wants to critic this game people are willing to jump downs someone throat and not in the good way. Should we go back on how the community actually attacked a content creator by down voting his video and made death threats on him? When you talk about this game many people have to walk on egg shells.

Heck and if you want a review ill go with ign more than game spot just because it seems like they played it longer than just up to the 21st

[aveyond-dreams]

It would probably surprise some people to know that Ishikawa is known to have written the base Shadowbringers MSQ by herself for the most part, which begs the question as to what sort of interference and effects the pressure of having to rewrite Endwalker at some point had on the story. Left to her own devices, she was able to deliver a high quality fantasy story that I found highly enjoyable. But when influenced by what is widely believed to be Yoship's directorial oversight, we now have a 680 page megathread that has dissected the many ways in which Endwalker was found wanting.

Perhaps it is best that Yoship sticks to other aspects outside of writing, but given how rigid his vision has been when it comes to character customization and class design it may not be a bad idea for him to retire from FFXIV altogether and focus his energy on projects he is more passionate about.

[Axxion]

let it die let it die, let it shrivel up and die

Listen some people want the world to burn. and i am one of them