Impossible to escape gold.

[Osmond]

The problem is everyone got Diamond/Crystal for free last season, when CC was new so everyone was bad, demotion wasn't possible, and you could luck your way up the ranks with winstreaks. So now all of a sudden, when people actually have to play well to rank up, and the top ranks are reserved for the top players (what a crazy idea!), something must be wrong, right?

Sorry to those who got a taste of Diamond last season because SE doesn't know how to make a proper ranked ladder, but typically the only people to get that high are the top 5-10%, the people who have played 1000s of hours of similar PvP games. (It's not really a badge of honor, but tryhards be trying REALLY hard is all I'm saying.) And yet, some people who have never played a ranked PvP game in their life are they're expecting to get to Plat+ in a week... and like, that's just not how it works.

I'm really not trying to be insulting or elitist here. Just trying to address the false expectations that SE created in the first season. Everyone has to start somewhere, and naturally they're gonna be confused about what good or bad players even look like. So I don't even blame people for being frustrated at their teammates, or looking at damage-dealt/deaths as the only important metrics on the scoreboard. My advice? Just keep playing, try to learn something every match, and focus more on the overall pace of the match rather than individual kills or standing on the crystal 100% of the time (there's a good time for each of those, but it isn't ALL the time.) And watch out for who has LB ready.

Despite trying to be reasonable up to this point, I'm not a saint. So I admit, I am also laughing at the entitled and whiny people who come onto public forums and post every excuse imaginable for why they can't climb, and call the game mode dead in the first week, rather than facing the simple fact they they aren't good at the gamemode (despite playing it for a whopping 40 hours, wow, such dedication). The lack of awareness is astonishing.

I don’t think the climbing alone is the problem. It’s how they got there during the climb in Season 1 and fresh ppl in Season 2. It’s just now……no one want to re-experience that especially when the rewards for series 2 is horrible lol. A few minions, portraits, and a mount? Idk…

Also no one is going to take your words seriously. In one breath you feel sry for ppl complaining, then the next breath make fun of them complaining.

[Freyt]

There's really no problem with many people reaching Crystal. The score ensures there's still a proper ranking beyond that. The current system just punishes everyone, and now Ranked is dying in activity probably due to people being demotivated and not enough people in higher ranks to even give matches to other higher ranked players.

[Xel]

Sticking gold with bronze/unranked to keep the gold from moving up has killed this mode dead. Anyone above gold either botted or win traded, and everyone knows it.

[GordonGeeko]

There's no reasoning with these people. I could literally film all my games from Bronze to Platinum and there would still be people saying it's wintrading.

It's okay. I suppose part of me wanted people to realize that they are not good enough and if they want to play ranked, they have to improve. But if you don't even want to recognize the issue, how can you hope to fix it ?

So, think whatever you want, abandon ranked, think to yourself that everyone else was a cheater and a wintrader anyway and that you are the only good and fair player in the whole game. Go play your 2 min casual games that keep going 100 to 0, win or lose, get your Series pass maxed up and then focus on something else.

In the meantime, myself and the people with at least a modicum of skill will play ranked, where our games will be a lot more fun when you don't have people not pressing their Recuperate button (in theory). Because besides the rewards, high-rank games are infinitely more fun. You can trust your PLD to use cover on you if you are about to die. You can trust your DNC and DRG to try to sync up their LB for maximum damage. It's a lot more strategic, it's a lot more rewarding. There is a community that you can get involved in because you'll often run into the same people. You might even make friends.

It's just... not for you.

[Xel]

Pretty defensive for someone claiming innocence, but we all know the truth.

[GordonGeeko]

Of course, why wouldn't you know the truth ?

Why would I know better what happened in my own Aether games than some worthless player from Crystal who can't even make it past Gold, if they even managed to reach that ?

[Xel]

Sadly, you keep proving how much you had to cheat to get that precious Season 3 Crystal cupcake. How many wins did you have to trade to get out of Gold?

Quote Originally Posted by GordonGeeko

I got very lucky with my teammates while getting out of gold (once again).

They were all fantastic, all the time, with no exception. All god tier players pressing their LBs at the right moment, using purify when cc'd, spamming their recuperate buttons, using the potions on the field and denying the enemy theirs. If for some reason, those great players died and it was too much of a disadvantageous situation, they would fall back and regroup. I barely had to do anything at all while my teammates kept carrying me to victory.

I should go buy a lottery ticket with all that luck I keep having.

But of course, if it was not luck, it must have been cheating. It couldn't possibly be skill. Luck and cheating are the only options.

[GordonGeeko]

Ain't that convenient for you.

If I deny that I cheated, you say I lie. Either way, you claim you are right, even if you have absolutely NO basis to support your claims. You have nothing. You have very limited Crystalline Conflict experience. You have not played in higher ranks. You don't know any high-ranking players. I know that for a fact, because if you did, you'd know how wrong you are. You spit out baseless accusations from "things you've heard" with absolutely nothing to back them up. Where is your proof that there is mass-cheating ? Please, I'm dying to see it.

Because if there is, it is the most coordinated, mass-cheating ever made. Considering how almost everyone in the Top 100 has below 100 wins.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...llineconflict/

Mass-cheating of that scale is bound to leave some traces. Where are they ? Show me. Show me your proof.

Edit: Your proof is.... obvious sarcasm from me ?

[Cheremia]

I have reached Platinum and my queue is very dead now.

The amount of people I got not knowing how pvp works, unranked, etc, was astounding.

Way more than when the new pvp FIRST DROPPED. By far.
Two people not pulling their weight is impossible to carry no matter what anybody says.

I do not understand how you CAN carry people that just GO, die, GO, die, GO, die and don't really press any buttons on their way to the respawn timer.

The worst thing is that I do indeed spam "retreat and regroup" so people hear it (and I don't feel bad about it, I want my team to win so i spam the useful advice) , but many just don't care and keep running in and dying and then we lose because "oh no the enemies are pushing, gotta PUSH the crystal"
The amount of people dying and then spamming "PUSH THE CRYSTAL" and people listening to THAt is amazing.
You are trying to tell them to run because enemies pushing with lb, that ONE person that keeps dying says to push the crystal and such they do and also die...

The groups being gold-gold-bronze-bronze-unranked is worse than having gold-silver-silver-bronze-bronze, because 2 silver people MOST likely know more than the one extra gold I had. And it was usually that i got the lower ranked team total than the enemies...

I am currently at work but I do have a handful of screenshots showing how bad people are this time around because it is definitely worse than before.

And now, in platinum, my queue is completely dead. Amazing!

And yesyes, i get it, i'm on crystal, so memeserver but crystal has good pvp people I remember and would smooch if i could. And will refuse to believe that pvp on other servers magically have better people so nobody is as bad as some people i got.

[Lustre]

I have reached Platinum and my queue is very dead now.

The amount of people I got not knowing how pvp works, unranked, etc, was astounding.

Way more than when the new pvp FIRST DROPPED. By far.
Two people not pulling their weight is impossible to carry no matter what anybody says.

I do not understand how you CAN carry people that just GO, die, GO, die, GO, die and don't really press any buttons on their way to the respawn timer.

The worst thing is that I do indeed spam "retreat and regroup" so people hear it (and I don't feel bad about it, I want my team to win so i spam the useful advice) , but many just don't care and keep running in and dying and then we lose because "oh no the enemies are pushing, gotta PUSH the crystal"
The amount of people dying and then spamming "PUSH THE CRYSTAL" and people listening to THAt is amazing.
You are trying to tell them to run because enemies pushing with lb, that ONE person that keeps dying says to push the crystal and such they do and also die...

The groups being gold-gold-bronze-bronze-unranked is worse than having gold-silver-silver-bronze-bronze, because 2 silver people MOST likely know more than the one extra gold I had. And it was usually that i got the lower ranked team total than the enemies...

I am currently at work but I do have a handful of screenshots showing how bad people are this time around because it is definitely worse than before.

And now, in platinum, my queue is completely dead. Amazing!

And yesyes, i get it, i'm on crystal, so memeserver but crystal has good pvp people I remember and would smooch if i could. And will refuse to believe that pvp on other servers magically have better people so nobody is as bad as some people i got.

I considered attempting to climb for this series/season, did like 3 or 4 matches, was put with a weird mix of bronze, unranked and gold. Remembered how awful the mode was, and how seemingly nothing has been fixed since season one and noped outta there. I'll stick with Frontlines.