Do people on these forums only complain endlessly?

[Knot_D]

OP might want to check the subreddit. Endless circlejerking how wonderful the game, community or some content is. Or maybe art commission or a new player writing about their first hour and calling ffxiv the best game ever without realising they are still on their honeymoon time

Well can't believe I'm on honeymoon time for 8 years then

[Lunalepsy]

"Endwalker is badly written because it didn't go the way I wanted it to. Also, I love the genocidal mass murderer."

"Island Sanctuaries are bad because it's not instanced housing. There's nothing to do after picking up 9700 nodes to reach rank 10 in the first week. What's a workshop?"

"Datamining has ruined the game. These debuff icons reveal everything about the savage raid and will ruin progression. I don't do savage raiding though."

"Why do you say "first time" in a new instance?"

"I got rescued once so please remove the ability from the game. I can't handle losing control over my character. I'm the main character, nobody should be able to mess with my movement but me."

"Crafting is too easy."

"Crafting is too hard."

"Removed from Ex4 by Japanese group. Racist. I queued into a duty complete group and got removed for not knowing what to do."

Because these things happen. If you don't like what goes on, why bother making a thread for it?

[Bad_Luck]

Do people on these forums only complain endlessly? Now you’re doing it too.

[RoroCookies]

It’s a little concerning that these days complaining is consider ‘trolling’ people. While there are some genuine trolls messing with people, it’s like people aren’t allowed to like a game a game but also be able to express what they also don’t like about a game. Things really aren’t that black and white.
Some of my favorite games are the games I complain the most about because I love them deeply but wish they could do better. But I guess that’s just ‘trolling’.

[SturmChurro]

ESO was my main MMO home for many years before I reterned to Eorzea. I really love how it delved into lore that the other Scrolls games rarly did, even if some Chapters did lean a little too far into nostalgia. I would honestly play it more had the 'Subscription' for it become so nessary for things like DLC and item managment haha.

The lore in it is pretty bad, and that's saying something for a game set in the ES universe. Although, the questing is still semi-enjoyable if you are an ES fan. That's one of the only MMOs where I have characters with their actual racial naming conventions, just like I do in the single player games. My high elf main is actually named as a high elf would be. I primarily played that game for the questing and story content. Some customization too, I will admit I bought into the FOMO of outfits multiple times from the cash shop. The lootboxes really kill it for me though. Oh and the housing system is pretty good too, better than this game for sure, other than how heavily monetized it is.

It’s a little concerning that these days complaining is consider ‘trolling’ people. While there are some genuine trolls messing with people, it’s like people aren’t allowed to like a game a game but also be able to express what they also don’t like about a game. Things really aren’t that black and white.
Some of my favorite games are the games I complain the most about because I love them deeply but wish they could do better. But I guess that’s just ‘trolling’.

Always has been. Even if someone isn't presumably "trolling", if it is an opinion that is averse to many in the FF community, it is seen as that.

[vetch]

Always has been. Even if someone isn't presumably "trolling", if it is an opinion that is averse to many in the FF community, it is seen as that.

It hasn't always been, it's just difficult to remember anything else. Prior to about 2001 the default assumption when you saw a nonsensical or super-provocative argument on the internet was that the person was just an earnest a-hole, not that they were posting in bad faith to try to get a rise out of people.

[Momo_Kozuki]

If you wish to find positivity, check subreddit /ffxiv

If you wants to find negativity, check anywhere else.

[ThaCa]

Even though some of the posts are kinda meme, this is probably the only official path to bring up your issues or suggestions with the game so those kinda get highlighted.

[Deveryn]

It’s a little concerning that these days complaining is consider ‘trolling’ people. While there are some genuine trolls messing with people, it’s like people aren’t allowed to like a game a game but also be able to express what they also don’t like about a game. Things really aren’t that black and white.
Some of my favorite games are the games I complain the most about because I love them deeply but wish they could do better. But I guess that’s just ‘trolling’.

It's all in the delivery of the message. If someone can highlight the problems in a polite manner and not resort to things like name calling and accusing people of lying, while also remaining open to what the other side has to say, a conversation can take place and an understanding can be reached.

If not, then it drifts into the realm of trolling and just shitting on something. Sadly, a lot of people just like to do that. Any excuse to try and tear someone down, whether it's a 1 star review somewhere or what have you. They can generally do it without repercussion. People are used to talking a lot of shit and not getting slapped for it. At least here, someone will answer back.

[aveyond-dreams]

No matter how straightforward or polite one tries to frame their message as, it seems there are always individuals who are unwilling to entertain new ideas unless they come from Yoship himself. Nevertheless, I think it is in the best interest of the game for its areas of improvements to be openly discussed.