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  1. #61
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    Misplaced_Marbles's Avatar
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    Violent Saviour
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    Omega
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    True. As long as i get whispers like this:



    I do not worry about "ugly" Elezen.



    Cheers
    Saying things like that is, of course, bogus since the character creation is extremely limited.
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  2. #62
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    LuciaMirain's Avatar
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    Erzulie One
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 100
    The tiny heads need to change yes, other than that I actually like them, I think elezens are beautiful but everytime I create one in CC I zoom out and go "nope" bc of the tiny head. I have seen people mod viera ears into elves and they look pretty good since body and head is more proportional.
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  3. #63
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Upgrading all the races would be nice. it's a double edged sword though cause some playing them will not be happy with changes.

    I personally don't like the female Hyur running animation wish we had an option to change it. I played that race for years and switched pretty much when Viera came out. I would like to go back with one of mine but that is really stopping me.
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  4. #64
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    The old ARR races in general could use an increase in polygons, compared to Viera their faces just look rather blocky when you take a closer look.

    As for Elezen, like I said before the shoulders are a bigger issue for me than the heads. They make most fending gear look absolutely ridiculous.
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  5. #65
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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    Hoping the lighting update in 7.0 will help out all the races. Not gonna lie, this thread is making me consider swapping to elezen for a bit.
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  6. #66
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    Hailen Arcanis
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tetsujin View Post
    Is it that they have small heads OR really broad shoulders? I've never thought the head was the problem, but I've also never looked too closely. It's a genuine question.

    Would Elezen players want their race re-touched? I imagine many have grown fond of their generally long proportions. Pointy faces and all. I dunno, they have their charm, but it's not for me to really opine. I wish we lived in a world where Square could add thicker thighs and butts without the usual crowd whining though. Look at those legs!
    Their small heads create the illusion that their shoulders are too wide.
    I made a photoshop edit to prove my point:

    Notice how the shoulders don't look as big?
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  7. #67
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    Hailen Arcanis
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FlatLined View Post
    Their proportions are fine the way they are. It's what makes them different. The only thing I will say that needs changing is their animations. Their running animations are one of the worst in game.
    My main problem is that they were never intended to look like that. The 3D artist kinda...fucked up. Elezen are the only race that looks so different from their concept art.
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  8. #68
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    Hailen Arcanis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reese_Clairdale View Post
    All Elezen specific animations are already mocapped, just like pretty much everything else from 1.0. If I had to guess, they got actual tall people or very good actors to do them. Not every race needs cartoonishly expressive emotes or a normal jogging cycle, and they wouldn't fit with the overall demeanor of Elezen.

    Concept art where Elezen have more typical proportions is from 2.0's development and onward, and even then it varies from artist to artist. Some of the Viera concept art give them necks even longer than in-game Elezen.

    Neck length is fine.

    The head I agree is too small, but only slightly. Increasing it too much would look even weirder.

    The first thing I would change personally is the way pauldrons on a lot of armor sits on Elezen shoulders, that needs a huge improvement. Some of them are fine as is, but a lot of them are spaced too wide. Other shoulder or neck accessories like the scarf on the Myochin Haori can also be too big, but instances of this happening are much more rare and are less extreme compared to shoulder armor.

    Not every game needs elves to just be humans with pointed ears. There are also people who are extremely lanky IRL who may identify more closely to Elezen than Hyur, so changing Elezen to fall in line with what is seen as "normal" will just deprive them of that option in addition to reducing the amount of fantasy elements.

    IMO, if they want to perfect Elezen, they can give them the exact same proportions and gear fitting that they have in CGI images and trailers, which would still involve very long necks and limbs.

    That's what I want, for them to be closer to their concept art. It's not their necks or shoulders, it's their heads that are too small. And it's only a little too small, but it has quite drastic effects on their overall proportions.

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  9. #69
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    Hailen Arcanis
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    The old ARR races in general could use an increase in polygons, compared to Viera their faces just look rather blocky when you take a closer look.

    As for Elezen, like I said before the shoulders are a bigger issue for me than the heads. They make most fending gear look absolutely ridiculous.
    Their small heads create the illusion of longer necks and broader shoulders. I've made an edit you can check in my previous posts
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  10. #70
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    Hiroto Fujiko
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    Odin
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    Miner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hailen View Post
    Their small heads create the illusion that their shoulders are too wide.
    I made a photoshop edit to prove my point
    Notice how the shoulders don't look as big?
    Yes, thank you! Imo too the heads are the problem. I would be ok with smaller shoulders for females, but really the heads are the problem.
    Take a look at how small my face is in comparison to my hand.


    Please SE, make an option for those of us who want normal sized head on elezen to have it.

    And there are still some bugs, like this one in sitting position:
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    Last edited by Hirototo; 08-21-2022 at 02:37 AM. Reason: trying to repair links

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