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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    We're ten years into the game's active development. It's more than a little concerning if they haven't figured out how to design content that is future proofed in advance as to not fade into irrelevancy...or just create some new shiny rewards to encourage veteran players to go back and delve into the likes of Eureka and Bozja once more.
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    Vel Kallor
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    You can do it with Discord if you don't mind that format. I was surprised the other day farming frags in Bozja on Chaos it had close to 50 in zone with 24 joining CLL. Perhaps there was a discord group in zone don't really know but some content is still running on it's own two feel it appears.
    That is definitely something I will look at, but in all truth, I would rather stick to an OCE realm with decent latency. I do thank you for the reminder
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    There have been numerous commentaries on the issues with those zones, especially the fact they get a hell of a lot harder to complete once the expac ends

    This from ( h/t ) Packetdancer



    Also ( h/t ) TaleraRistain



    Id love to do CLL and Delubrum..but thats dead content now , very few are doing it on Zurvan or across OCE, Eureka unless you are dedicated is also an issue.....so as my learned colleague above has said, it hasnt been future proofed.

    I CAN see what you mean, but then the question then is : will this content then viable afterwards.

    Eureka is also ( sigh ) bot riddled.
    I can do DRN CLL and DAL daily on OCE hell I just got out of a DRN farm party that I joined just because I like DRN, BA and DRS are done through discord but they have always been done by discord, if the smallest DC that didn’t even exist when Bozja was current content can get this stuff done regularly i have no idea what people are seemingly finding difficult outside of “why isn’t this stuff being run 400 times a day so I can queue at my convenience”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I can do DRN CLL and DAL daily on OCE hell I just got out of a DRN farm party that I joined just because I like DRN, BA and DRS are done through discord but they have always been done by discord, if the smallest DC that didn’t even exist when Bozja was current content can get this stuff done regularly i have no idea what people are seemingly finding difficult outside of “why isn’t this stuff being run 400 times a day so I can queue at my convenience”
    Well I may go the route of taking my Sophia alt through Eureka and Bozja and work on doing that in my time rather than deal with the new relic. It will probably be a lot more fun reliving that content than doing what the new one entails although I'll reserve judgment until I know more about the process.

    Good to know that Materia does in fact have people doing relic there given lately content and DF have been pretty slow. I'm hoping 6.2 brings a resurgence to DF and an infusion of new people and transfers. There is certainly an abundance of housing there for those who want a house.
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    We're ten years into the game's active development. It's more than a little concerning if they haven't figured out how to design content that is future proofed in advance as to not fade into irrelevancy...or just create some new shiny rewards to encourage veteran players to go back and delve into the likes of Eureka and Bozja once more.
    To be fair. In terms of keeping old content alive, FF14 is very good at it. I know games, which make old content completely irrelevant with every new content patch. And it is an old MMORPG problem, there is also a word for it: mudflation. I guess, this problem it cannot be solved entirely.


    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Well I may go the route of taking my Sophia alt through Eureka and Bozja and work on doing that in my time rather than deal with the new relic. It will probably be a lot more fun reliving that content than doing what the new one entails although I'll reserve judgment until I know more about the process.

    Good to know that Materia does in fact have people doing relic there given lately content and DF have been pretty slow. I'm hoping 6.2 brings a resurgence to DF and an infusion of new people and transfers. There is certainly an abundance of housing there for those who want a house.
    This is a slow point for everyone, we just feel it more on materia because of our lower population, a lot of the vets are taking a break, it will massively pick up again in 6.2, especially when people from other DC’s come back realise they still don’t have a chance at a house and transfer to us to get a house
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    We're ten years into the game's active development. It's more than a little concerning if they haven't figured out how to design content that is future proofed in advance as to not fade into irrelevancy...or just create some new shiny rewards to encourage veteran players to go back and delve into the likes of Eureka and Bozja once more.
    To be fair if the sheer monetary value of the eurekan items isn’t enough to ensure the contents future lifespan im not sure what is, Cassie earring is still the single most valuable item on the market board to this day and eureka is what, 4 years old now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    To be fair if the sheer monetary value of the eurekan items isn’t enough to ensure the contents future lifespan im not sure what is, Cassie earring is still the single most valuable item on the market board to this day and eureka is what, 4 years old now
    People said Eureka would die after the first group got their characters to level 20. The content is still viable I've run that content and earned HW relics late into Shadowbringers and that was pretty easy to do. Granted I've been too busy to engage in relic activities with EW but I suspect the Bozja content will also see further nerfs with the introduction of the EW relics.

    As long as they don't nerf BA and DRS I'm fine with additional nerfs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    We're ten years into the game's active development. It's more than a little concerning if they haven't figured out how to design content that is future proofed in advance as to not fade into irrelevancy
    For some reason it's not that they don't know how to, they simply refuse to. It's as easy as letting the Echo buff scale up all the way to 1 player so that it's a moderate but quick challenge solo or with a few friends. There's zero problem with players facerolling lv50 dungeons for the ARR relics, but for some reason it's not allowed for Bozja.

    Discord works, but as with any system in a game you have to ask "does this make the game better?". Is a Bozja that requires discord more fun for the overall playerbase than one you can hop into anytime solo or with a few friends?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    we're not getting exploration content this expac.
    Thank the Twelve and good riddance.
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