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  1. #41
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    Garten Rei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    What is there to explain?
    Are you trolling? That Person i was replying was dismissing another poster with something unrelated to what It was referring
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by axetastic View Post
    Huh, turns out you were right.

    So, does anyone have a better idea on how to fight the system, besides "don't bother?" Because I'm in agreement that the system - and the abusers - are both a problem.
    You stop paying.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by axetastic View Post
    Huh, turns out you were right.

    So, does anyone have a better idea on how to fight the system, besides "don't bother?" Because I'm in agreement that the system - and the abusers - are both a problem.
    I am here in the forum since.. a lot.. and i learned the hard way how It goes.. unfortunately housing Is One thing of this game that Is not well done. The hoarders brag since the beginning of Time and does not care of ppl that came After and struggle to have a house. I have a big personal One and a small guild house with my guild, so i am ok but i feel Sorry for other ppl that never even had a house in this game.
    I am don with this post, too old to get attacked again by ppl with prob so Little dick that Need like 36 houses in a videogame to compensate ..

    Unfortunately there Is nothing to be done, SE Is unable to code a more restrictive system.. so.. One can only get lucky with the lottery for now
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  4. #44
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    Are you trolling? That Person i was replying was dismissing another poster with something unrelated to what It was referring
    What makes you think I'm trolling? Do you need a explanation how to get a house?
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  5. #45
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    Teaudix Suidoreux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    you explained creating a guild, not obtaining a house with that guild (that you should not be able to do it if you have already one, like i explained a few posts above)
    You doesnt seem to understand the concept of creating an FC to get a House (or more then one if said person wants) isnt an exploit or creating an FC to buy a House breaks the TOS. Same as the person I replied to. Or should I translate it for you in a more appropriate and easier language?
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    Last edited by Yodada; 08-07-2022 at 10:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshtola_Cat View Post
    You stop paying.
    Unless something has changed, Square Enix doesn't have an "exit survey" so unfortunately even stop paying isn't a method for telling SE.

    (as they simply won't know WHY you're unsubscribing)
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  7. #47
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    Countess Flouncy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshtola_Cat View Post
    You stop paying.
    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Unless something has changed, Square Enix doesn't have an "exit survey" so unfortunately even stop paying isn't a method for telling SE.

    (as they simply won't know WHY you're unsubscribing)
    Exactly. This kind of all-or-nothing thing accomplishes nothing except for me no longer playing my favorite game over an issue I have with part of it. SE gets no feedback when one single person unsubs.

    I love the game. I don't want to unsub to send a message that won't be taken as such.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    I am don with this post, too old to get attacked again by ppl with prob so Little dick that Need like 36 houses in a videogame to compensate ..
    Smartest person in this thread, TBH I should probably do the same.
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  8. #48
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    Last time I unsubscribed SE did have an exit survey. It's just not very detailed of specific.
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  9. #49
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by axetastic View Post
    I did my best to be respectful. I did not list character names, free company names, or the name of the public discord. I'm not going to let comments like yours keep me silent when I see blatant abuse of the system. Every single thing I posted about here was very, very public at the time of my posting. And again, I did not name any names.
    But you did give enough specific information that it only took me 5 minutes to figure out which houses you were referring to (including the time waiting in queue for data center travel - a couple of those FC profiles read at the placard did not include the discord info by the way but the link was clear from the names).

    I don't think it was your intent to start a witch hunt, of course. I know you're speaking out of a sense of frustration with a badly designed system. But what you did say could have been enough to start one.

    I'm not saying don't try to make a difference. I am saying that coming here isn't going to make a difference. The forums are mainly for player discussion. While the community teams do monitor them on occasion and forward some of the feedback to the development team, we don't know that the issues important to us are what is getting forwarded.

    To make a difference, you want to be opening a ticket under Report Cheating with the GMs if you suspect a player of not complying with the ToS or rules. You want to be using the in-game Support Desk "Leave a Suggestion" to give them feedback about your personal experience. Tell them how frustrated you feel that you're unable to get a house while you this other player has acquired 13 houses on your world (but likely doesn't have 13 services accounts). That way your voice can't be lost in the myriad of forum posts and replies that many times are off topic or non-constructive.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 08-08-2022 at 03:25 AM.

  10. #50
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    Countess Flouncy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    To make a difference, you want to be opening a ticket under Report Cheating with the GMs if you suspect a player of not complying with the ToS or rules. You want to be using the in-game Support Desk "Leave a Suggestion" to give them feedback about your personal experience. Tell them how frustrated you feel that you're unable to get a house while you this other player has acquired 13 houses on your world (but likely doesn't have 13 services accounts). That way your voice can't be lost in the myriad of forum posts and replies that many times are off topic or non-constructive.
    Thank you for all these suggestions, and for maintaining a civil discussion with me. I did not consider the feedback area of the support desk, and I will use this feature, like you said.

    I'll be honest, I don't feel bad for calling them out. It's their own fault they were that easy to find. Had they not dickwaved on their 13 houses and claimed every single plot as theirs, I would have been none the wiser.

    Edit: Now they've removed the discord, and edited all their tags and changed many of their near-identical guild names. Guys, no need to scramble. If the majority of this thread is to be believed, you're safe in your hoarding. Carry on.
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    Last edited by axetastic; 08-08-2022 at 03:52 AM.

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