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    Player Wolfie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekirr View Post
    The fact is, People who are against gear swapping are just saying that because for some reason they don't like it.
    Already gave multiple points.

    When they give reasons why, the people who are for gear swapping disprove those reasons with well stated arguements,
    Like calling the people who didn't like it in FFXI unskilled? Maybe you should re-read your own posts.

    yet people still don't think it is a good idea based on pretty much no logical reasoning at all. It's like arguing with a sixteen year old girl who thinks she knows everything, yet she bases her decisions on nothing knowledgable at all.
    The irony here is tangible.

    "Too much elitism is no good" - I'm sure that's what SE said when they were making this game.
    They were. They also failed, so they booted Tanaka and brought in someone who also has that same vision of not producing an atmosphere that promotes elitism.

    -"Hey guys, we need to make sure only mediocre players play this game."
    Nobody has ever said that. That's something you just pulled out of your butt right now. How about making some logical points?

    There honestly is no point continuing this because people will still sa the same thing:
    "Don't bring back gear swaps because they are bad", and they still won't have any good reasoning behind that choice.
    They are bad and you were give multiple objective reasons. You threw them all out in favor of whatever personal biases you had for gear swapping, like "if you were even remotely decent in XI, gear swapping shouldn't have been a problem for you."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Already gave multiple points.



    Like calling the people who didn't like it in FFXI unskilled? Maybe you should re-read your own posts.



    The irony here is tangible.



    They were. They also failed, so they booted Tanaka and brought in someone who also has that same vision of not producing an atmosphere that promotes elitism.



    Nobody has ever said that. That's something you just pulled out of your butt right now. How about making some logical points?



    They are bad and you were give multiple objective reasons. You threw them all out in favor of whatever personal biases you had for gear swapping, like "if you were even remotely decent in XI, gear swapping shouldn't have been a problem for you."
    Well said.

    In addition, knowing how to write macros for each actions you are going to perform doesn't make you good. There's plenty of template out there that you can copy. On the other hand, knowing how to choose the set of gear that you are going to enter the battle with that will not only caters toward your play style and counter the mechanisms of the fight takes real thinking.

    No gear swapping vs. Gear swapping is like Quality vs. Quantity. Simply throwing 50 pieces of gear at the boss so every single one of your action is maximized isn't going to make you win the fight if you insist on standing in fire so you can maximize your dps time, and it definitely doesn't make you a better player. One example would be the WoW talent system, the majority of the players simply go on armory and find someone from a top end guild or find a talent build on a forum and copy/paste their talent trees. They have no understandings of the logic and reasoning behind why each talent is picked, and a lot of the times situational talents were picked by top end players to cater towards a specific strategy, yet people who copy/paste will copy the talent without thinking does this particular skill works for the strategy that my guild is using for this boss. The good players in this example think before making a decision when talent trees are locked once you enter the fight (a restricted environment), and that's quality. I don't see them demanding talents can be switched on the fly in mid battle (an unrestricted environment) in the name of that makes them a better player.

    Gear swapping does not make you a better player, it just means you are too lazy to think carefully when you choose your gear before entering a battle.
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    Last edited by KyrsIsley; 03-23-2012 at 11:41 AM.

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    go back and play FF XI please those who agree with changing gears for ws or in battle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jlesis View Post
    go back and play FF XI please those who agree with changing gears for ws or in battle
    Take it back to before WotG, revert the level cap, don't ever conceive of Abyssea, and maybe a lot of us would, tbh. Oh, and give it XIV's graphics.

    No but seriously, just because you didn't like something does not make it wrong; no more than me liking something makes it right. So seriously, everyone stop dropping the "if you didn't like..." "If you like..." "all the people that don't like..." etc. posts.

    I want my 5 minutes back :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by NadienKirisame View Post
    The question is now... are they ignorant because they do not have the same opinion as you? or is it really that they lack the knowledge and information about the subject?

    It seems some do have the knowledge and understand the concept of gear swapping and yet still do not wish to have it here... I am one of those people... as I think it is a rather silly/stupid concept to have in any game with armor. Unless of course whenever you swap gear in or out of combat your character does some type of "Magical Girl" transformation... then it would fit a bit better. That doesn't happen so I'll go with no thanks...

    The cat is bemused =-.-=
    Pfft... we MUST have magical girl transformations! Revolutionary Girl Utena, GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Obligatory Video Time - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBMBbf6mLJs
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    Last edited by Dragon; 03-23-2012 at 02:31 PM.