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  1. #11
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    Tehmon's Avatar
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    Ryutaro Mori
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    It might just be the perspective, but it does look like the one on the bottom has a much stronger jaw. It's like Lahabrea on top is a midlander, and one on the bottom is a highlander. What is very clear is that they both have the same eye color (on at least on of their eyes) and both have chains on their arms.

    Another interesting thing is that the lighting they use on the bottom half makes it look like the bottom Lahabrea's hair color is the same as Erich's. But the hair length seems to same to me as top Lahabrea's, the lighting just makes it look like there are some longer stands of hair. The parting of the hair also seems to fit one another.

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    Rannie's Avatar
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    Rannie Lfey
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    A younger version of lahabrea as part of the "buried" memories (silver Normal mask hangingpast the neck fort the young one as opposed to the red could indicate that its a memory version of him before becoming Lahabrea)... as a possibility. Then there's also the eye shapes which could be perspective as well since the heads are tilted differently but the shape of both the left and right on each look the same almost.

    Or adding in we're all wrong and it's another psycho like the Alucard wanna be and is the 4th boss of the raid who is hell bent on doing what he can to please his boss.
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    Last edited by Rannie; 07-29-2022 at 01:35 AM. Reason: I should be going to sleep but the pictures intrigued me and I keep thinking of little things
    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    The original Pandaemonium artwork released during the lead in to Endwalker did not show a beard on Lahabrea. I originally wondered if the man in the center was Hesperos until I saw the red mask. I wonder if we're going to see some body swapping.

    The character in the back appears to be wearing white robes, which is interesting in itself given that it seems reserved for individuals valued for their objectivity and judgement. Now the real question is what creatures from Greek mythology are affiliated with the various animals shown? Snakes are always interesting for their association with both Echidna and the Gorgons, and there might be a Kraken in there too.
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    Deidrea Shadowbane
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    What of the second Man on the Poster is Lahabreas first Son, he got a bit nuts and had to be locked away in the Pandemonium?

    Maybe the older Man on that Poster is not Lahabrea, more like his Father and the crazy one is Lahabrea and was to dangerous to be left alone so he locked him away?

    Maybe Lahabrea had a dangerous crazy Brother, which had to be locked away in the Pandemonium?

    What if Athena got killed by that crazy one on the Poster and Lahabrea tried to bring her back and everything went wrong.
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    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    The character in the back appears to be wearing white robes, which is interesting in itself given that it seems reserved for individuals valued for their objectivity and judgement. Now the real question is what creatures from Greek mythology are affiliated with the various animals shown? Snakes are always interesting for their association with both Echidna and the Gorgons, and there might be a Kraken in there too.
    My guess was Azem which would make sense having them right at the back in the distance barely discernable, given their "hands off" approach with Pandaemonium, instead sending their Seventh-Astral-Era-counterpart (the WoL) to help Themis, but the white robe throws that theory off. Unless.. it's another,... you know, retcon (or else the artwork is just symbolic).

    At this point though, anything goes really with that one.

    As for the monsters/animals, am I the only one to notice that black bird there? Uh oh.....
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    Vicious Zvahl
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    My bet is that the Gaius van Baelsar looking Ancient is current Lahabrea. The crazed person beneath him conjoined by robes and chains is his wife Athena, previous Lahabrea. In spite of the man chin. Though I suppose if it's a guy, it might be Erichthonios gone mad. Same hair and eye colors, after all.

    There's tentacles, a coral snake, a crow, and shrubbery around them?

    The person way in the back in the light of the door way? Ehh... that could be anyone. The illumination from the door really makes it hard to tell what color the robe is, and even their mask is somewhat obfuscated if they're even wearing one.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    The one on bottom could be a man, but I'm a fan of the theory that it's an insane Athena. By the way, does anybody know exactly when Athena died or when Lahabrea rose to his seat? I'm currently running a theory that Lahabrea has been possessed by Athena since the beginning (or body swapped), and that we've actually been dealing with an insane Athena over the course of the game, not the true Lahabrea (would make one hell of a twist).
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    Krann Starwarden
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehmon View Post
    It might just be the perspective, but it does look like the one on the bottom has a much stronger jaw. It's like Lahabrea on top is a midlander, and one on the bottom is a highlander. What is very clear is that they both have the same eye color (on at least on of their eyes) and both have chains on their arms.

    Another interesting thing is that the lighting they use on the bottom half makes it look like the bottom Lahabrea's hair color is the same as Erich's. But the hair length seems to same to me as top Lahabrea's, the lighting just makes it look like there are some longer stands of hair. The parting of the hair also seems to fit one another.

    Something I have just noticed is the eye colors. Lahabrea doesn't have a matching eye color while the upside-down character does have matching eye color, and Lahabrea's left eye color is matching with the upside-down character eye color. This could indicate that maybe Lahabrea is under a form of mind control or even tempering, or that they're blood-related or at least share some form of a connection (Like both did something that would result in a change to the eye color).
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  9. #19
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Given the theories that Lahabrea's real name is Hephaestus, perhaps there are some connections to be drawn from mythology as to who this other malicious-looking fellow could be?
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    Eara Grace
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    The eyes and red hair make clear to me the figure toward the bottom is also Lahabrea. The fact that he is merged with the center figure suggests the two are the same being somehow? Someone else pointed out that if Lahabrea is split between two beings, it would match Mateus from FF2, the original Pandaemoniums master. Might also explain why we seem to have conflicting character traits attributed to Lahabrea.
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    Last edited by EaraGrace; 07-29-2022 at 03:18 PM.

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