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  1. #61
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    Gunbladesman's Avatar
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    Yukia Nesa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Give it a rest already. The housing system was never intended for everyone to have a house and they are never going to change that. They want the housing sectors to be communities focused mostly on FC's. Its been like that since they introduced housing. Personal/instanced housing is never going to happen.
    Damn it sure is a shame that almost all wards are empty and the neighborhood feel is completely nonexistent. What SE wants and what has actually been happening for the last 7 years are not the same. Keep settling for bare minimum and thinking the billion dollar game company can't do better.
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  2. #62
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    Solarra's Avatar
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    Sylbritt Muscadet
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Give it a rest already. The housing system was never intended for everyone to have a house and they are never going to change that. They want the housing sectors to be communities focused mostly on FC's. Its been like that since they introduced housing. Personal/instanced housing is never going to happen.
    If they want the housing wards to be communities, then why oh why did they not design a housing system that encourages that? The wards are generally dead. People teleport directly to their house and most don't hang around socialising outside. There is nothing to do in a housing ward, there is nothing to participate in, nothing to make you feel part of a community.
    And if owning a house was meant to be exclusive, why have they never said so?

    The fact is, they over-priced houses initially and many FCs struggled to get the gil required. The result of that was many plots standing empty in the wards. When players asked for personal housing, Yoshi made the mistake of deciding to let them have the 'unwanted' FC plots. Since then, the prices have come down and demand has soared, individuals and FCs have been competing for houses ever since.

    There is no way to get that genie back in the bottle. The devs need to look seriously at ways of solving the shortage of houses. Instanced houses would have the advantage of being a flexible solution. Adding more wards runs the risk of either not meeting demand (most likely) or, meeting it but then having the wards empty out if the game declines in popularity. Since wards are persistent regardless of whether anyone is in them, they are much more resource-hungry than an instanced house would be.
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    Last edited by Solarra; 07-27-2022 at 12:30 AM.

  3. #63
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    Siniztor's Avatar
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    Sin Bathory
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    Zalera
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    Part of the problem is Fc and people both use the same lots.. Yes they split wards to fc only.. but still its the same housing plots..

    FC are hooked to grand companies why not instance Fc housing into your grand company door and zone in there leave the wards to people..

    you will still be short cause each server has more then 7,200 people on it..

    Maybe the answer is moving Fc's to instance off the grand company doors and releasing enough wards to cover the amount of players you allow per server...the ward plaque has plenty or room to add more wards//

    This would also allow SE the option to make Grand halls for Fc instead of just using a regular house with 1 more door added lol

    I always found it weird that the houses are the same.. most games FC have different type halls the normal housing

    (reminds me of RL in my town we have 1 poor biker gang that used a house as a club house... and one richer biker game that bought a building n made there own hall...The poor bikers..parking problems not enough room..the other group there own parking lot and plenty of room)
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    Last edited by Siniztor; 07-27-2022 at 12:41 AM.

  4. #64
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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
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    No matter how you put it, bidding is not a terrible bandaid, it makes it fair for all.
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  5. #65
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    Equinox Axxion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    How about "You can get a private chamber at your FC's house!"? Heh.
    dont forget there always apartment
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  6. #66
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    Garten Rei
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    Bidding Is not a bandaid to the housing problem.. more wards Are a bandaid to the housing problem.

    Bidding came to solve the "placard Camp" argument
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  7. #67
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    Drakengarde's Avatar
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    Grayfia Astaroth
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    Bidding Is not a bandaid to the housing problem.. more wards Are a bandaid to the housing problem.

    Bidding came to solve the "placard Camp" argument
    What I believe many failed to realize is that although placard camping was bad you had a lot less competition compared to now. You see these houses that now have 200+ bids if this were the old system you would at best may have 20 or so people. So yes bidding makes it fair all across the board but in turn it now decreases peoples odds of actually getting a house. In the old system people who really and I mean really wanted a house would placard camp. So both systems have their pros and cons. Only thing that can be done (more like what square is set on) is continuing to release more wards to balance out the supply and demand.
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  8. #68
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    Pablo Maldito
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    Placard camping was a terrible band aid. It basically created conditions in which the only possible ways to get a house were through botting or dysfunctional behavior. In comparison, bidding is a very good band aid. Its problem is that it is still just a band aid on a bullet wound. (and at initial implementation, a defective band-aid on a bullet wound lol )
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  9. #69
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    Garten Rei
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    What i find silly of se Is that they created "Island Sanctuary", an entire new system that nobody was expecting and nobody asked for. They could have created an instanced housing instead, and people could have chosen to go for the wards or for a house in the new system.
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  10. #70
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    Sin Bathory
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    Bidding Is not a bandaid to the housing problem.. more wards Are a bandaid to the housing problem.

    Bidding came to solve the "placard Camp" argument
    You mean the argument PC people (not all PC people did this) could download a macro auto clicker over ps4/5 people couldnt... Hense the PC player that lost 250mil gil to a guy who out smarted his macro clicker lol
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