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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    The actual Cloud figurine price is just under $130. For an additional $30 you can get something backed by blockchain technologies (Enjin, in this case), with no means of trading said NFT at this time. The figurine isn't out until later 2023, by which time Enjin may not even be in business.

    This is also not the first NFT sold by Square Enix, but then you wouldn't know that because you neither read the quarterly financial statements for FY2022 or FY2023, nor are fluent enough in Japanes to where you could have purchased said NFTs in one of the non-English games published by SE.

    [See financial statements for further details: https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/i...planatory.html -- may I suggest the May 2022 report for FY2023/Q1 and the end-of FY2022 report from 31 March 2022?]
    When the attempted defence makes them look even worse.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    LMFAO, Square proove themself worse than EA and equal level as Ubisoft. What's next they are the new konami.
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    I don't get it... Why the digital version can't be purchased with regular money much like every other digial item instead of going through a special (and messed up) type of currency?

    I might have been living under a rock to understand the flavor of NFTs, dunno...
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    wtb remastered 4k remake of psx Final Fantasy Tactics kupo <3
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    Kupo!

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    maybe the real NFTs were the friends we made along the way
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    I want to address the bolded part specifically, and I'm just using this specific post as a backboard though I've seen this comment a lot here - so this isn't particularly aimed at you, dw!

    NFTs, by virtue of what they are, *shouldn't* be used as Certificates of Authenticity, and it's worrying that we're delving further and further into them. I come from this with an artists perspective, having had my work stolen quite a lot over the past 12 years as a digital artist, so of course take what I say with a grain of salt because I'm biased. I mean, of course I'm biased. Artists and digital creators are having their works stolen and turned into NFTs - a more notable example being Qing Han (Qinniart), who died. After her death, many of her works began to be uploaded and converted into NFTs. And even outside of artists creative works being stolen, NFTs can't even be used as preventative measures because the NFT can essentially be copy-pasted, and there is nothing stopping anyone from taking the NFT and making a new NFT out of the old NFT. So even if an artist wanted to preemptively create NFTs out of their work before others did, that still doesn't work.

    In my opinion, NFTs being used as Certificates of Authenticity is like allowing just anyone to slap pictures in the Louvre and claim that it's theirs. Sure, you're going to have some works that are genuine and authentic - but there's also works that aren't.

    And that's where I'll veer back into this situation - NFTs can be copied. Fake "Certificate of Authentications" can be made. What's to stop some shady 3rd party site from selling NFTs of this? The blockchain is notorious for allowing this to happen, with close to no repercussions for whoever decides to do that. It protects no one. It does nothing. It's speculative investing that now can't be used as speculative investing because SE has decided to cut off that avenue. And on top of that, the NFT market has crashed - big time. There's absolutely *no benefits* to this, even with the NFT acting as a sort of Certificate of Authenticity, because even that isn't sacrosanct.
    I think you may have taken my comment as condoning it as "just" an NFT for certificate of authenticity and I'm definitely not in that camp. I was just clarifying the NFTs on each choice. I don't think making NFT certificates of authenticity in lieu of an actual physical certificate is a good idea at all, and it's very hinky that their fine print says SE won't support trading or selling them on the marketplace. So it really does come off as adding it just to justify jacking the price up.
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    I bet 1 year to start arriving at FFXIV. Anyone want to bet with me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    I think you may have taken my comment as condoning it as "just" an NFT for certificate of authenticity and I'm definitely not in that camp. I was just clarifying the NFTs on each choice. I don't think making NFT certificates of authenticity in lieu of an actual physical certificate is a good idea at all, and it's very hinky that their fine print says SE won't support trading or selling them on the marketplace. So it really does come off as adding it just to justify jacking the price up.
    Oh no not at all. I just wanted to respond to that specific point and yours was the most recent one mentioning it. It's why I said it wasn't particularly aimed at you
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    why would they do that when they can price gouge morons?
    /thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    When the attempted defence makes them look even worse.
    Defense? Of what, exactly? Your words are senseless.
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