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  1. #21
    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    It is a real shame this wasn't available for both genders. Bought it gor Hrothgar alt, but would have loved to have it for my Viera main.

    Also, a little side tangent. The monocle can't be worn by Hrothgar for some silly reason! >
    It has a funny head. Not much to be done about it.
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  2. #22
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    I would prefer more gender / race specific attire not less.
    In the age in Eorzea where males can wear frilly dresses and bunny outfights complete with fishnet tights, I think many players would disagree.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 07-14-2022 at 01:33 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  3. #23
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    I understand, I still think having gender and race specific attire does add more in terms if diversity. I do not think inherently everything has to be made wiry everyone in mind.
    I totally agree with this. I really appreciate my other games where the gear is tailored specifically for each race & gender. And I REALLY appreciate it when there are no outfits that are male only or female only as we have in XIV. If there's an outfit in the game, both genders get their own variant. That M/F only junk belongs in a F2P game...not sure why we have it here. I also wish we could have stuck with race-specific hairstyles as well. To me, it just make each race feel more unique, and more grounded in the world itself.

    On a semi-related note, I also really love having mounts with unique abilities/specific uses vs. everything being the same and just having a different skin. Again, it goes towards making the world feel just that more real...even though we're all obviously just playing a silly game. While over here in XIV....OH HEY, there goes a flying chair! COOL. ._.;

    Now with that said, that ship sailed ages ago in XIV. Now we get a lot of bland, very similar looking short-spiky cuts for everyone, while the others look like they were clearly designed for once race/gender and then poorly stretched to fit everyone else. Same goes for a lot of the gear (mainly the ones that have been converted to unisex after the fact). One size definitely does not fit all. Like...fine, I get it, we're sharing everything now. That's obviously a decision SE is going to continue with. But...couldn't they at least try to tailor things to make them actually look good on the races? Little tweaks could make them look better on the different shapes and genders.

    Mini-rant aside, as we are so past the point of races and genders being unique, I'd love to see a female version of the Hildy outfit. lol.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 07-13-2022 at 12:34 PM.

  4. #24
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I'm glad someone else gets it.
    Limitations in what people can wear bring out creativity and diversity in what you see. While homogenization only nets you seeing the same 3 flavour of the patch pieces. People always claim otherwise, but imagine what we could see out there if like, we all got some new RSE. Pieces that only work on one race to make a unique look. A lot better than everyone strutting around in it.
    Coming from the Miqo'te who has worn the same gender-and-race-neutral glamour since ARR. (o´꒳`o )
    I'm curious: what would you do if the dev team did embrace the race and gender restriction you want and locked your Glacial Coat behind playing as a none-Miqo'te, male character? Would you change to add to the diversity? Or would you embrace the kawaii nature expected of Female Miqo'te?
    Because that is what race and gender locking items will do; set aesthetic-expectations on races and genders.
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    Last edited by Mimilu; 07-13-2022 at 11:12 AM.

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    Player Soge01's Avatar
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    It has a funny head. Not much to be done about it.
    You can wear all monocles available in game with Hrothgar, yet the store bought one doesn't work. :/
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  6. #26
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    Kemiko's Avatar
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    Kemiko Oyung
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    Gender and race limiting cosmetics is not how one breeds creativity. All that will do is limit possibility and create artificial race/gender popularity. At the end of the day, all the characters are bipedal humanoids with no real reason to artificially limit who can and cannot wear cosmetic items. A woman can wear a pair of slacks as well any man just as a man can wear a thong just as well as any woman.

    Now, as for the OP's cosmetic of choice being made gender unlocked, I know their reasoning before for items such as this, where it was made for a single character model and nothing else, is their go to excuse. Which, immediately crumbles, where it hits the mogstation and is made available for models, that they themselves explained, supposedly aren't the same ones. Would it have been that much more work to have it work for the female counterparts? And if the goal is to increase revenue, wouldn't making it more available do just that for a longer time?
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  7. #27
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    IkaraGreydancer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemiko View Post
    Gender and race limiting cosmetics is not how one breeds creativity. All that will do is limit possibility and create artificial race/gender popularity. At the end of the day, all the characters are bipedal humanoids with no real reason to artificially limit who can and cannot wear cosmetic items. A woman can wear a pair of slacks as well any man just as a man can wear a thong just as well as any woman.

    Now, as for the OP's cosmetic of choice being made gender unlocked, I know their reasoning before for items such as this, where it was made for a single character model and nothing else, is their go to excuse. Which, immediately crumbles, where it hits the mogstation and is made available for models, that they themselves explained, supposedly aren't the same ones. Would it have been that much more work to have it work for the female counterparts? And if the goal is to increase revenue, wouldn't making it more available do just that for a longer time?
    You speak as if the game doesn't already have race popularity/gender popularity. In fact you play one of those races yourself. Having more to work with can make it possible to be more creative but the same could be said when having less to work with. Right now uniqueness is a rare thing to see and thats WITH us having many different options.
    Uniqueness goes out the door when said items are available for everyone.
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    Benedictus-zos Pius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    I doubt we will ever get Emet ShB gear,
    they never give us villian stuff.
    On the contrary, Yoshida has decided to add the Garlean gear in the future after I’ve asked him in this year’s Q&A. He specifically said that he’s lifting the ban off the Garlean gear, since the Garleans are no longer our enemies.

    Clip: https://twitter.com/eliz_norisse/sta...ULxQT0G90TD-6Q



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    Last edited by ElizanderNorisse; 07-13-2022 at 11:13 PM.


    Petition to have the Garlean gunblade & armour added in the game:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/450029-Adding-Garlean-Gunblade-Glam-in-the-Game?p=5748119#post5748119

  9. #29
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    Serilda's Avatar
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemiko View Post
    Now, as for the OP's cosmetic of choice being made gender unlocked, I know their reasoning before for items such as this, where it was made for a single character model and nothing else, is their go to excuse. Which, immediately crumbles, where it hits the mogstation and is made available for models, that they themselves explained, supposedly aren't the same ones. Would it have been that much more work to have it work for the female counterparts? And if the goal is to increase revenue, wouldn't making it more available do just that for a longer time?
    I completely agree with your other point.

    But I suspect that the reason that they have some illogical gender locked items in the shop is to stop people from complaining that there's still a substantial gender disparity in the Mog Station offerings (and that's not even getting started on how many options have male variants which are just the same boring slacks while the female versions have unique models). Female characters get lots of unique gender locked outfits in Mog Station; male characters get... well, distressed Manderville attire and Aymeric were the last ones and they were 4-5 years ago. There have been several very appealing female-only Mog Station outfits released since then.

    And then Aymeric's hair is for everyone while Lyse's/Minfilia's is female-only. I understand that it's frustrating to only get half of the items when buying Aymeric's set but at least it's an option which you can see on the shop page - I'd love to get some of the female-locked pants/boots for my male character and if the chest piece has to stay locked because remodelling it is too much effort, that's better than locking the entire set.

    It's all so dumb. I want all of the male-only gear unlocked for female characters but I want the disparity corrected in the other direction as well. It won't make my stuff less unique because people can only equip one thing per slot at a time anyway; more options per slot per person means more diversity in what people can create.

    (Hi FFXIV forums, it's been a while!)
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    In the age in Eorzea where males can where frilly dresses and bunny outfights complete with fishnet tights, I think many players would disagree.
    Sure, "many" players, but how many?.I would have rather seen the resources spent on things more useful like ear holes, bows to hide tail clipping, etc. They could have at least done the hempen sets for everyone if anything.
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