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  1. #241
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    LLSmoothJ's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I love it, conjures memories of the late 90s lol. Good times. I won't buy it, but it's funny to see.
    Speaking as a 90s kid myself, I wouldn't mind seeing more fashion based on that period. Not saying that they should do so mind you, but I certainly wouldn't be complaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagacious
    If I seen a cut scene I immediately skipped it, because after saving the whole world I am demoted to babysitting an idiot.

  2. #242
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gullis View Post
    to be fair its not that hard to understand why people don't like this stuff. If you come from more standard fantasy stuff to FF, its easy to look at this and think its dumb. I never played any other FF before getting into this, so it took some time getting used to, But I learned to just roll with it and have fun.

    its like when you go from a place like Gridania where you got a fairly standard elf'y town with nature, bows and old style clothing, to stuff like Garlemald with cars, guns and high techology, its kinda hard to not ask the question of why most people are still using bows and axes while looking like mediveal peasants.

    the game is so all over the place with tone, setting and style, Its kinda wierd at first, but as I understand it, thats just how FF works.
    You have to learn to just roll with it, and accept that anything goes in this game. doesn't mean you have to like it, but that's just how it is.
    The way I sorta interpret it is that technology is a way of basically achieving the same thing but without having to use magic ( because Garleans are incapable of it ).
    It's not like people are just using bows, people are using magically amplified bows and are throwing explosions around and swinging their axe into an explosive fiery inferno.

    I think magic is both a blessing and a curse, it's a blessing in the sense that it can do a lot of stuff but I also think it'd be kinda like a curse because it'd disincentivize people to really try as hard to come up with new solutions to problems that doesn't rely on magic.
    The Harry Potter setting kinda has this thing going on too, the magic world is rly backwards and still living in the past compared to the outside world.
    Because they just use magic for everything, they don't need to use machinery in most cases.

    I don't really think it's necessarily a tone issue with FF, I think it's more that people have fairly rigid expectations of medieval fantasy imho.
    It's the same with stuff like realism, people have extremely narrow views on what is and isn't '' realistic '' or '' practical '' with armor for example and it usually just boils down to '' is it historical or not '' as if just because our ancestors didn't do something it means they didn't because it'd be useless or something.
    Or like it'd just stop being hardened steel and physics stopped being physics just because it doesn't align with what our ancestors did.

    Edit: Also there has essentially been multiple apocalyptic events that brought down the greatest empires and set the world back.
    The Allegans for example were highly advanced but their technology was just kinda lost and it set people back again and sorta restarted everything.
    And they also had Emet working behind the scenes sorta pushing them along.

    The Garlean empire also researched these societies they looked for past technology and built on it ( as far as I remember one of the Alliance Raids in SB had a storyline for this ).
    If anything it's kinda just Eorzeans being backwards and too relient on magic to really adopt and push for new technology as hard.

    I actually think that Thancred is a fairly good example of this.
    He picked up the gunblade because he became incapable of using magic, he wasn't using it before and if it was just that much better I think he would've.
    Okay so he wouldn't because Gunbreaker wasn't out by then lol, but I still think you'd see more Eorzeans with gunblades if they were just so much better especially as they confiscated weapons and I am pretty sure Cid and company would be happy to build them if that was the case.
    Heck Thancred even needs help with the ammo.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 07-11-2022 at 12:54 PM.

  3. #243
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    Too expensive and the shoes are cartoonish
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  4. #244
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    Modern / street glams are not my style in games but I will admit both tops are really nice.
    My only gripe is the chain necklaces as I prefer very minimal accessories for my looks.
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  5. #245
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    Quote Originally Posted by einschwartz View Post
    Modern / street glams are not my style in games but I will admit both tops are really nice.
    My only gripe is the chain necklaces as I prefer very minimal accessories for my looks.
    I'd be happier if they keep the two separate pieces. I want to use the necklaces for other glam plates.

    But then I realized: "Oh no glam dresser slots."
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  6. #246
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    You realize that most Final Fantasy games are Post Modern Magitech games with heavy influences from Star Wars. You realize you are dressed like a Sith Lord right now? I personally wouldn't know what Fortnight characters look like, but I do understand it has a lot of modern fantasy crossovers to include Super Heroes and Star Wars characters.

    Spoiler for Endwalker bits:
    FFXIV has post WW2 Soviet Russia recreated with Mecha and Computers, we fly in a Space Ship, seriously didn't anyone else get a Normandy SR2 vide from that moment. FFXIV could easily take place in our future, if they didn't have us go back and visit the world before. Hells, in Final Fantasy Canon, from other media, our Earth is represented in the Final Fantasy Cosmos as three different worlds. Earth destroyed, Japan partially Destroyed, and Earth as it is now. There is more than a fair bit of lore to suggest people from our world have fallen to the Source on more than one occasion.

    So no, modern fashion being in FFXIV fits the lore and setting fairly well.

    Oh... and Tomestones are either old Smart Phones, or old Computer Memory chips.
    Yes Ragnarok scene was a serious nod to the Cerberus ship called The Normandy SR-2. I'm baffled the scene didn't get almost any attention from the community or the media. People like to live in the boxes it seems, to miss one of the iconic scenes of the gaming world.

    Here is a video. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy1E4eX484o
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  7. #247
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    The way I sorta interpret it is that technology is a way of basically achieving the same thing but without having to use magic ( because Garleans are incapable of it ).
    It's not like people are just using bows, people are using magically amplified bows and are throwing explosions around and swinging their axe into an explosive fiery inferno.

    I think magic is both a blessing and a curse, it's a blessing in the sense that it can do a lot of stuff but I also think it'd be kinda like a curse because it'd disincentivize people to really try as hard to come up with new solutions to problems that doesn't rely on magic.
    The Harry Potter setting kinda has this thing going on too, the magic world is rly backwards and still living in the past compared to the outside world.
    Because they just use magic for everything, they don't need to use machinery in most cases.

    I don't really think it's necessarily a tone issue with FF, I think it's more that people have fairly rigid expectations of medieval fantasy imho.
    It's the same with stuff like realism, people have extremely narrow views on what is and isn't '' realistic '' or '' practical '' with armor for example and it usually just boils down to '' is it historical or not '' as if just because our ancestors didn't do something it means they didn't because it'd be useless or something.
    Or like it'd just stop being hardened steel and physics stopped being physics just because it doesn't align with what our ancestors did.

    Edit: Also there has essentially been multiple apocalyptic events that brought down the greatest empires and set the world back.
    The Allegans for example were highly advanced but their technology was just kinda lost and it set people back again and sorta restarted everything.
    And they also had Emet working behind the scenes sorta pushing them along.

    The Garlean empire also researched these societies they looked for past technology and built on it ( as far as I remember one of the Alliance Raids in SB had a storyline for this ).
    If anything it's kinda just Eorzeans being backwards and too relient on magic to really adopt and push for new technology as hard.

    I actually think that Thancred is a fairly good example of this.
    He picked up the gunblade because he became incapable of using magic, he wasn't using it before and if it was just that much better I think he would've.
    Okay so he wouldn't because Gunbreaker wasn't out by then lol, but I still think you'd see more Eorzeans with gunblades if they were just so much better especially as they confiscated weapons and I am pretty sure Cid and company would be happy to build them if that was the case.
    Heck Thancred even needs help with the ammo.
    Thats a good way of looking at it.
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  8. #248
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gullis View Post
    to be fair its not that hard to understand why people don't like this stuff. If you come from more standard fantasy stuff to FF, its easy to look at this and think its dumb. I never played any other FF before getting into this, so it took some time getting used to, But I learned to just roll with it and have fun.

    its like when you go from a place like Gridania where you got a fairly standard elf'y town with nature, bows and old style clothing, to stuff like Garlemald with cars, guns and high techology, its kinda hard to not ask the question of why most people are still using bows and axes while looking like mediveal peasants.

    the game is so all over the place with tone, setting and style, Its kinda wierd at first, but as I understand it, thats just how FF works.
    You have to learn to just roll with it, and accept that anything goes in this game. doesn't mean you have to like it, but that's just how it is.
    All FF games 1-10 (even 11 and 12, although i dont count them in with the "greats") have an incredibly consistent tone and style, never betraying their own identity while still shaking things up every now and again (introducing magitek for villains for example). It wasn't until recently (ff13 onwards) they started betraying their own identity for metrics. Shareholders want cash, so I guess that means eorzea is now one giant korean boyband huh. It's not unreasonable to expect companies to push for cash, but it is disappointing to see fans so eager to consume they dont take a second to actually think about it.
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  9. #249
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    I love it!

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    Last edited by Seger; 07-11-2022 at 08:52 PM.

  10. #250
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    The newer kids think it's trendy but it's actually a boomer outfit.
    Sum 41, Tony Hawk Pro Skater. Around that time.

    I like it actually but I'm not paying for it lol.
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