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    Lol at all you people thinking this fan made trailer is amazing. I don't want to really be "that guy", but there are a lot of issues with it on many levels. Nonetheless, nice to see it come from someone, since the community seems rather stale and stagnant with this kind of media production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keftenk View Post
    Lol at all you people thinking this fan made trailer is amazing. I don't want to really be "that guy", but there are a lot of issues with it on many levels. Nonetheless, nice to see it come from someone, since the community seems rather stale and stagnant with this kind of media production.
    Now isn't this quite the troll statement... :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Now isn't this quite the troll statement... :/
    It's criticism. Which it needs much of to become better in the future. If people just keep saying it's amazing with clear and definite faults, then this is the kind of quality that will continued to be produced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keftenk View Post
    It's criticism. Which it needs much of to become better in the future. If people just keep saying it's amazing with clear and definite faults, then this is the kind of quality that will continued to be produced.
    Lol at all you people thinking this fan made trailer is amazing.
    Trolling to me, telling us were retarded for thinking its amazing.
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    Good work. Nice vidz^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Trolling to me, telling us were retarded for thinking its amazing.
    ...right, because that's what I'm doing.
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    Let's see all you negative nancies make a better video.

    Thanks OP, excellent job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon View Post
    Let's see all you negative nancies make a better video.

    Thanks OP, excellent job.
    Figured this would be said by someone. I have no desire to nor do I believe my editing skills are even to a level that would make a cohesive narrative. Doesn't mean that I can't critique it. Just as you have your opinion of "excellent", I have mine. It's that simple.

    It's a good attempt, no doubt, but I see it more as process then a final make. The OP needs to think about a story he can tell, that makes sense and can be easily followed. The OP also needs to work on scene selection that correlates to the music. A Roll and B Roll footage to support it all. In addition, the OP needs to recognize and realize that viewers have incredibly short attention spans and any "dead weight" within the trailer will lose the focus of your viewer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keftenk View Post
    Figured this would be said by someone. I have no desire to nor do I believe my editing skills are even to a level that would make a cohesive narrative. Doesn't mean that I can't critique it. Just as you have your opinion of "excellent", I have mine. It's that simple.

    It's a good attempt, no doubt, but I see it more as process then a final make. The OP needs to think about a story he can tell, that makes sense and can be easily followed. The OP also needs to work on scene selection that correlates to the music. A Roll and B Roll footage to support it all. In addition, the OP needs to recognize and realize that viewers have incredibly short attention spans and any "dead weight" within the trailer will lose the focus of your viewer.
    Mhm! I actually had a lot issues just pushing this video specifically out to the public. I record with uncompressed film (for a few reasons), so the project was scaling in size very quickly. Think it was up to some 37 gigs by the time I was done. Anyways, as has been noted, a lot of the filming took place at different stages in FFXIV's development. Mainly pre-1.21, and post 1.21. That can be seen slightly in the video.

    There's a severe lack of syncing, mainly because I wanted to rely upon my linkshellmates to record, so that they might also be in the video some. However, that alone proved to be one of the biggest issues. Getting people out in significant numbers provided an extreme challenge, so what little filming I did get ended up having to be the material I was working with. Some of it wasn't fitting, but I had to make it work anyways.

    Suffice it to say, by no means would I let all the praise go to my head on this. I appreciate it, but I understand completely that the trailer in question is by no means the most amazing thing made in XIV's history. But the fact that people are enjoying it none-the-less is enough for me, at this is just a hobby.

    Anyways, feel free to check out my more recent project. Still has it's shortcomings, but I addressed a few other critiques given in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endemerrin View Post
    Mhm! I actually had a lot issues just pushing this video specifically out to the public. I record with uncompressed film (for a few reasons), so the project was scaling in size very quickly. Think it was up to some 37 gigs by the time I was done. Anyways, as has been noted, a lot of the filming took place at different stages in FFXIV's development. Mainly pre-1.21, and post 1.21. That can be seen slightly in the video.

    There's a severe lack of syncing, mainly because I wanted to rely upon my linkshellmates to record, so that they might also be in the video some. However, that alone proved to be one of the biggest issues. Getting people out in significant numbers provided an extreme challenge, so what little filming I did get ended up having to be the material I was working with. Some of it wasn't fitting, but I had to make it work anyways.

    Suffice it to say, by no means would I let all the praise go to my head on this. I appreciate it, but I understand completely that the trailer in question is by no means the most amazing thing made in XIV's history. But the fact that people are enjoying it none-the-less is enough for me, at this is just a hobby.

    Anyways, feel free to check out my more recent project. Still has it's shortcomings, but I addressed a few other critiques given in the past.
    Oh no, I understand the process completely lol. Start small, don't try and tackle giant projects at once. Even simple story boarding is going to help you a ton down the road. It doesn't have to be super detailed, it's after all a side/fan creation, but having direction before hand is always best. This will allow you to visually think of how you might need to take the shot or record the video, etc.

    I didn't want to be the downer of the thread, it's a good attempt and I think most, scratch that some know that it isn't this amazing piece of work that will bring the masses to FF14. It's all understandable. It obviously could be improved dramatically, but that's what practice is for. Practice makes perfect as they say.

    A tip for you that I used in school quite often, select the music first and just listen to it over and over again, piecing a string of events or story along in your head or on paper. It's incredibly difficult to pull this off with footage only to then find music that you want to use. Knowing what music you have before hand will help you plan some of your shots, for instance when the music is mellow you don't want a horde of beastmen being slaughtered. When it's being powerful and creating a sense of drama, use footage that would convey this silently. You wouldn't want a panorama of your character during this moment.
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