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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    I've gotten into heated arguments before and called people idiots and I've never gotten a warning and have played since ARR.
    So I dunno wtf people are doing to get in trouble really.

    The forums is a different matter, but ingame isn't the same.
    Something tells me too that most of the time people are leaving a lot of stuff out and are making their offense sound less bad than it actually was.
    Not saying there literally will never be GM's who miss the mark, but I also think people often get warned/ banned when they actually did something wrong and then they hop online and minimize what they did or said for sympathy and to push this narrative of evil GM's.

    If you're not being a legit asshole I really think it's quite difficult to get into trouble ingame.
    It's not impossible because GM's are human beings and fallible they're going to make mistakes.
    But this whole notion that they're like sitting around wildly banning or warning people for minor things I think is wrong and people are being kinda silly when they act like they're not allowed to speak ingame and like it's a massive risk to do so.

    I don't shy away from pushing back and getting into heated arguments with people when I think they're being unfair or decide to blame me for shit I didn't do and I know people have reported me before for it because they've told me.
    Never had any contact at all with GM's because of that tho.

    Edit: Btw, anyone who has worked in customer support probably knows how this is too.
    You constantly deal with asshole customers who always think they're right and use you to vent their frustrations on.
    No, the customer isn't always right.
    And quite often the customer is a real jerk and dehumanize the hell out of you just so they can have a target to vent at.

    I think it's a similar thing with GM's too, I think a lot of people are legit asshole towards them and use them as a punching bag.

    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Yeah, because Square certainly seems to care a lot about people getting harassed.

    I've watched someone in DF sit there threatening to hunt down and attempt to murder someone over in-game issues and I know that person isn't banned.

    It's more than likely that Square just sucks at doing anything meaningful. It's super easy to give out a warning for something small because no context is necessary. Plus, I've heard that Japanese legal systems are absolutely crooked to the point where if you're even suspected of doing anything then you're likely going to get punished for it regardless(not sure how true this is, but if it's true, then Square probably carries that over into the game).
    This doesn't even make sense, how is it easy to give out a warning for something minor because no context is necessary?
    Why would they need context then if they don't care about that if someone is threatening to '' hunt down and attempt to murder someone ''?
    What context could possibly justify that?

    Like in one second you say that they're not doing anything, then in the next second you're saying that they're doing too much too easily.
    Do you actually think that GM's just sit around banning or warning people for like calling someone a poop face but then just look the other way when someone is threatening violence?
    They may not have been banned but they may have been warned and it may have been their first time.
    I think it's fair to receive a warning first before a ban even if it's quite bad ( unless it's especially bad and actually escalates into irl stuff for real ).
    Obviously it's not okay but I think people deserve a second chance, there's too much bullshit already online with people being '' cancelled '' or whatever for things they did or said 10 years ago.
    If you do something wrong you should be given a chance to better yourself unless it's especially horrible and dangerous and a more legit threat.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 06-29-2022 at 08:10 PM.

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    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    This doesn't even make sense, how is it easy to give out a warning for something minor because no context is necessary?
    Why would they need context then if they don't care about that if someone is threatening to '' hunt down and attempt to murder someone ''?
    What context could possibly justify that?

    Like in one second you say that they're not doing anything, then in the next second you're saying that they're doing too much too easily.
    Do you actually think that GM's just sit around banning or warning people for like calling someone a poop face but then just look the other way when someone is threatening violence?
    They may not have been banned but they may have been warned and it may have been their first time.
    I think it's fair to receive a warning first before a ban even if it's quite bad ( unless it's especially bad and actually escalates into irl stuff for real ).
    Obviously it's not okay but I think people deserve a second chance, there's too much bullshit already online with people being '' cancelled '' or whatever for things they did or said 10 years ago.
    If you do something wrong you should be given a chance to better yourself unless it's especially horrible and dangerous and a more legit threat.
    It's funny how you do your best to hunt down my posts and try to destroy their reasonings instead of looking towards any logic.

    Taking action against something major such as someone threatening irl violence would likely mean that they also need to report it to the authorities irl using the information that they have on the person making the threats in case something does happen. Otherwise they could be held responsible. Even if they do report it, it's still a bad look for them so why bother at all?

    Besides that, I know that moderation staff on other games have quotas to fill. It would make sense if it's the same over here for GMs to want to hand out penalties for easier to deal with situations while leaving questionable situations alone.

    Also I feel you're a bit off and you're defending yourself by believing that everyone deserves a second chance regardless of what they've done. There are always some actions that are unforgiveable. There are gray areas but there are also areas that are completely black and white and failing to take strong actions against something that falls in a black and white area showcases your true character.
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    Garten Rei
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    Just to give some contest .. i was in a debate on Frontile where i was trying to lead. Somebody Said me to shut up, that i was Just an idiot. I got nervous and Said that he was an idiot cause i was Just trying to lead. 2 days later "i" was in jail. (I didnt report the other Person). I told the story to the gm but he didnt care, his only response was Just something like: you broke TOS..etc.. since then i Just Do passive aggressive behavior, sarcasm and Revenge killing in pvp
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