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Thread: UI Mods Lawsuit

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    "That player has use a plugin to make his buff icons larger! He's a dirty cheater get him!!!"
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    Mods =/= cheats, pup!

    Mods are literally a personal decision with no impact on others, at all.

    Cheats and hacks, like aimbots that ruin a competitive game or literally tp'ing around under the map are what you wanna blame ^^

    You're very dishonest with your title. I assume that's calculated, as you actually asked about botting and/or cheating in your post.

    What's your problem with people getting to toy with their UI or having stupid outfit mods? ^^

    Do you report RP ads too?

    We're all people, sharing the same world and you wanna sow dissent.

    That's wasted time, literally ^^
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    I wonder how many times OP needs to be proven wrong before they stop posting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    "That player has use a plugin to make his buff icons larger! He's a dirty cheater get him!!!"
    I have this friend of a friend of a distance relative, he raids and has this one person in his static that suffers from impaired vision and they can't see debuffs properly with the standard size so they sometimes wipe to this person not reacting to their debuff in time.
    If you use a mod that makes icons larger, you are CHEATING !!! Because they wipe to smaller icons and you don't !!!!
    Why do you even play the game if you want to let mods do all the work for you lol ???? You all compain about "ez pz content" and then let mods play the game for you omfglol ... these discussions really show who is a REAL FFXIV player and just can't even play without MODS doing the work and-

    Okay, no. Just writing this is really exhausting. How do people manage to write a whole essay of this nonsense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    Okay, no. Just writing this is really exhausting. How do people manage to write a whole essay of this nonsense?
    Because mental gymnastics are tiring. :^)
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    hmm, find quite hypocritical that ppl wont accept that modifying a game file, to change an aspect of the game, is in fact the definition of cheating ...
    regardless, even if i do agree that having such mod greatly benefit the game, or having this mod that allow to have the camera be a lot further back
    (god id love for SE to have this ..., lost count of how many time i had to battle with camera to see what was going on ...), it still give an advantage to those who dont have them !
    let me remind you all that SE had to "lock marker" once battle start because again ppl were abusing these to predict attack patern mid fight, how tf is that not an unfair advantage ?
    and thats the problem with mods, give a finger, in the end ppl will want the whole arm ! and in the end yes it is super unfair for those that play the game total vanilla
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    My thoughts are that people should stop acting stupid and like as if anything has changed at all.
    The stance has always been that they don't endorse or approve of any of it, and that you're not allowed to *advertise* it ( which is why some people got banned/ warned, the rest were just blatantly cheating while recording their own evidence against themselves ).
    And with advertising it means telling people what you're using and how awesome it is and where to get it.

    Don't cheat, it should be fairly obvious to anyone who's being even a tad bit intellectually honest what cheating entails.
    And if you're gonna use QoL stuff then just use it in silence and don't start advertising it to people.
    Do this and you'll be fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by IckeDerTyp View Post

    Mods are literally a personal decision with no impact on others, at all.
    Are they really tho?
    Have we learned nothing from WoW?

    What happened to WoW with addons is why the devs have the stance that they have.
    The reality is that when they become normalized it no longer becomes a personal decision it becomes an expectation.

    This is ofc in a generalized sense, I'd agree with stuff like chat bubbles but not at all with the more gameplay-oriented ones.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 06-24-2022 at 12:53 PM.

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    International Law Firm Article

    This is one of the best articles on illegal mods.

    https://kblroche.com/thinking-before-modding-players-dont-own-what-they-make-2656426399.html

    A quote from the article,
    "I’m a modder! What does this mean for me?

    Well, the*harsh answer is:*either*don’t mod at all, mod only for works where the rights-holder has condoned the practice, or keep your mod private instead of releasing it to the public (which is still infringement, but without anyone noticing it). If a rights-holder does not like your mod, then they can and will strike your mod down (via a cease and desist letter and a DMCA Take Down Notice most likely). Once that happens, there is not really anything you can do. If you want to release a mod of a game you do not own any copyright in, your best bet is to*ask the rights-holder for permission."

    It is very clear from this International Law Firm Article that unwanted mods, whether they are provided for \\'free\\' or paid or held privately or publicly, the unwanted mods are illegal and copyright infringement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TempusFinis View Post
    This is one of the best articles on illegal mods.
    Wow! Very interesting. Here, take this cookie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    All of these lawsuits are targeting people selling mods/cheats/whatever that negatively impact the game. It’s mostly impacting people making millions on aim bots, automation tools etc. These tools do also exist for Final Fantasy XIV, Square Enid seemingly doesn’t go after them directly though. Not to mention these other games listed as examples, such as Destiny 2 or World of Warcraft, have client side anti-cheat mechanisms that are also used to prevent unapproved modifications to the game.
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