Allow cancelling personal housing lottery bid - here's why

[XiaoShengwu]

I understand - though it is very tribal and not in the spirit of the game to do such a thing - so like @burmecia said, there needs to be a cap on the lottery for each house,

he was mocking you. because you're asking them indirectly to put caps on how many people can bid on a house. you're not the only one who wants a house. you're not the only one who is going to bid. want better chances? wait til last day of bidding. walk around wards, and mark down which plots are getting the most bids, and avoid them.

[IvoryHawk]

I've been saving up for months to purchase a house in the game. I am a newish player and haven't even finished MSQ. However, private housing as part of gameplay begins relatively early in progression, and the benefits to having an estate, even a small one, are not just cosmetic (though there is nothing wrong with that). I do not own or really want an apartment, but it looks like that may be my only option. I don't want to join a FC right now, a choice I've decided to make which I know limits my gameplay a bit, but one that the Game Developers want to support (as they introduce more ways to solo-play).

I believe that with limited housing plots, a lottery system for private housing is the only fair way. HOWEVER, I FINALLY got the opportunity to enter a lottery when it went live again today, clicking on a plot that only had 1 other participant at the time. A few hours later it has 10 already. By the time the lottery ends, who knows how many it will have? Suddenly that shady plot up in the corner is looking pretty attractive to me with 1 bid on it - I wish I could pull out of the original bid and switch to a plot I have a better chance of getting. I've emptied my gil coffers, have to wait 5 days to see that I've likely lost, and will have to try all over again with no hints beforehand as to the plots I am MORE LIKELY to win the lottery on. So allowing cancellation of a bid seems only fair. It would reduce the pool for the high-demand plot, so its not like I'm gaming the system. I bet there are many solo players out there who would rather have a less-desirable plot than no plot at all - give us that choice is all I ask.

I believe that the ultimate solution is to have more housing. Somehow. Not saying it would be easy from a server standpoint, but I believe that there are minds out there that could figure out the tech challenges.

If they allowed for cancelling, people would just do that last minute and bid again on a lower bid count property, there's a reason they don't do it

[not_ya_wify]

That would simply lead to people playing musical chairs with bids when they think there are too many on that plot. Which sounds like a headache for the server with the constant dumping and pulling of gill and participate numbers going around and around and I can already see a FC pooling a bunch into a single plot to get people to pull out so only they are the ones bidding. Look, no matter what you do at this point your odds are basically the same. Only real chance you had is if you did what I did and roll on a house right out of the gate where there were only like 8 bids. Also, you're not even done with MSQ and are new not even in the FC. This kind of stuff is, despite being introduced at level 15, an end game thing that people try at after years of playing. Not to say you can't participate but you'd be better investing your time in the main game first.

There are no rules to say you have to be in end game to buy a house. You can buy a house as soon as you hit level 50 and 2nd Lieutenant GC rank. Some people will go for a house as soon as they reach that even before beating ARR. There are people who don't care about the fighting aspects of the game and only want the social aspects like housing, glans and RP. They can do that if they want.

[Wolfenrir]

It's cute that people think that adding new worlds/wards will either mitigate the housing issue/fix it.

[Jojoya]

It's cute that people think that adding new worlds/wards will either mitigate the housing issue/fix it.

If the active player base were to stop growing in size and SE were to take a hardline stance when it comes to enforcing ownership limitations, it potentially could.

A lot of players have been sharing personal entry counts from their worlds. Once you take into account all the empty FC plots that could be used to satisfy personal demand and the amount of demand being generated by relocation not new purchase, most worlds seem to be in the 1200-1500 range for unmet personal demand. 15 additional wards plus subdivision would meet that demand and add in a small cushion for demand among those still working to meet purchase requirements (again, this is assuming there is no overall growth in the active player base)

But we're probably going to see continuing growth in the player base and SE is highly unlikely to bother enforcing the spirit of their rules so for now you're correct. It's not going to fix the problem. It would mitigate the problem to some degree but never enough to satisfy everyone.

[OniKimoto]

There will be more housing. NA and EU have entire new worlds coming online later this year.

So people are just suppose to give up their friends and families on a data center because housing is available in new worlds? No, they need to fix this housing fiasco once and for all. It's been an issue since 2.0 and increasingly has become worse every expansion as FFXIV has grown a lot. I feel a lot of problems can be resolved if they swapped to instanced housing for personals and let FC's have wards since personal are typically used for private use if y'know what I mean... Anyways, that's just my take on it.

[OniKimoto]

They should also probs turn on auto demo and keep it on, it's not a popular opinion but what else are we to do?

[Toutatis]

I believe that with limited housing plots, a lottery system for private housing is the only fair way. HOWEVER, I FINALLY got the opportunity to enter a lottery when it went live again today, clicking on a plot that only had 1 other participant at the time. A few hours later it has 10 already. By the time the lottery ends, who knows how many it will have? Suddenly that shady plot up in the corner is looking pretty attractive to me with 1 bid on it - I wish I could pull out of the original bid and switch to a plot I have a better chance of getting. .

Simple solution: wait and bid closer to the end of the bidding period. The house isn't going anywhere during that period of time. Anyway, all private plots have ridiculous amounts of bids atm.

[Yodada]

So people are just suppose to give up their friends and families on a data center because housing is available in new worlds? No, they need to fix this housing fiasco once and for all. It's been an issue since 2.0 and increasingly has become worse every expansion as FFXIV has grown a lot. I feel a lot of problems can be resolved if they swapped to instanced housing for personals and let FC's have wards since personal are typically used for private use if y'know what I mean... Anyways, that's just my take on it.

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[Necrotica]

Add instanced housing.