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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    Imagine doing the devs jobs for them!

    Any moderator or GM can contact me ingame if they have to balls to actually deal with this issue.

    Please investigate and ban them, they have only been reported for.. 5 months straight..


    Inb4 i get a ban for 'harassment' before the actual cheaters get a ban.

    Well thing is banning bots from Eureka won't stop bots coming back to Eureka.
    Removing bunny fate from Eureka won't stop bot coming back to Eureka as long there is other content that give good amount of gil.
    Removing all gil rewards from Eureka can stop bots coming back to Eureka but then they move to other high gil gain content.

    And as long players keep buying gil and other services with real money from RMT bots, the bots will always be problem in FFXIV.
    So if you want there be less bots in any content is by banning players who buys gil and other services with real money from RMT bots or if you want get rid of bots completley is by making everything untradeable between players that bots don't have anything to sell to other player for real money but this is something that no one wants and it pretty much never happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000 View Post
    Well thing is banning bots from Eureka won't stop bots coming back to Eureka.
    Removing bunny fate from Eureka won't stop bot coming back to Eureka as long there is other content that give good amount of gil.
    Removing all gil rewards from Eureka can stop bots coming back to Eureka but then they move to other high gil gain content.

    And as long players keep buying gil and other services with real money from RMT bots, the bots will always be problem in FFXIV.
    So if you want there be less bots in any content is by banning players who buys gil and other services with real money from RMT bots or if you want get rid of bots completley is by making everything untradeable between players that bots don't have anything to sell to other player for real money but this is something that no one wants and it pretty much never happens.
    If you ban them often enough to make their operation not profitable they won't be coming back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrystofer View Post
    If you ban them often enough to make their operation not profitable they won't be coming back.
    Banning bots often enough won't stop bots at all when they can just increase their prices to become profitable again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000 View Post
    Banning bots often enough won't stop bots at all when they can just increase their prices to become profitable again.
    You can't infinitely increase Gil prices because people have a certain threshold that they are willing to pay. At some point, it won't be profitable enough for the bots to continue Gil farming. First off, a bot has to break even and level up an account in order to farm Gil. Eureka bots have to be over level 70, level up their elemental level and on top of that, they have to farm around 100 million Gil to break even. That should take at least a week or two to do all of that.

    If bots don't last that long they CAN'T be profitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrystofer View Post
    You can't infinitely increase Gil prices because people have a certain threshold that they are willing to pay. At some point, it won't be profitable enough for the bots to continue Gil farming. First off, a bot has to break even and level up an account in order to farm Gil. Eureka bots have to be over level 70, level up their elemental level and on top of that, they have to farm around 100 million Gil to break even. That should take at least a week or two to do all of that.

    If bots don't last that long they CAN'T be profitable.
    You know there always be people who are willing paying any price for gil and other services that RMT bots are selling.

    Also don't forget that most bots uses stolen credit card info to buy the new game + all expansions license and X amount of game time, so bots pretty much are always profitable even if did sell gil and other serives for loss when they didn't spend their own money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000 View Post
    You know there always be people who are willing paying any price for gil and other services that RMT bots are selling.

    Also don't forget that most bots uses stolen credit card info to buy the new game + all expansions license and X amount of game time, so bots pretty much are always profitable even if did sell gil and other serives for loss when they didn't spend their own money.
    Unless there's enough demand there won't be a profit for the bot farmers. Supply and Demand. The goal is not to eradicate RMT, but to reduce it.
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    Last edited by Xrystofer; 06-08-2022 at 02:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrystofer View Post
    Unless there's enough demand there won't be a profit for the bot farmers. Supply and Demand. The goal is not to eradicate RMT, but to reduce it.
    Easy solution is to stop RMT at its source by eradicating known bot farms, causing the gil prices to skyrocket and make players not want to buy the gil at inflated prices.

    Eureka easily makes up over 50% of RMT gil in the game due to how easy it is to obtain, a single character botting for 24 hours could easily make 10m a day. Multiply that by 40... and you have one of the most profitable bot farms in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000 View Post
    Well thing is banning bots from Eureka won't stop bots coming back to Eureka.
    Removing bunny fate from Eureka won't stop bot coming back to Eureka as long there is other content that give good amount of gil.
    Removing all gil rewards from Eureka can stop bots coming back to Eureka but then they move to other high gil gain content.

    And as long players keep buying gil and other services with real money from RMT bots, the bots will always be problem in FFXIV.
    So if you want there be less bots in any content is by banning players who buys gil and other services with real money from RMT bots or if you want get rid of bots completley is by making everything untradeable between players that bots don't have anything to sell to other player for real money but this is something that no one wants and it pretty much never happens.
    this!
    Ban the buyers and increase the time banned to 3 month or even perma
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