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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Oh honey, you were lied to.
    No lie, game has a good community.
    Just the forums can suck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    No lie, game has a good community.
    Just the forums can suck
    Nah, Reddit's pretty bad too. You still find people demanding DRK gets Scourge back.

    And Twitter's... well, Twitter.

    And that's to say nothing about in-game interactions, what with the slurs and blatant racism going around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    And that's to say nothing about in-game interactions, what with the slurs and blatant racism going around.
    Must be a thing on Zodiark, over here on Adamantoise its very Friendly.
    Or maybe Im just somehow lucky enough to avoid all this drama everyone talks about.

    Worse I ever get is in PF for the Newest High Tier Raid content.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Must be a thing on Zodiark, over here on Adamantoise its very Friendly.
    Or maybe Im just somehow lucky enough to avoid all this drama everyone talks about.

    Worse I ever get is in PF for the Newest High Tier Raid content.
    That has been my experience, yes. I have an alt in Crystal, but haven't really interacted with people there to actually see how Americans are.

    But yeah, it's not just Zodiark people; it happens in Light on occasion. Specifically toward Roegadyn (not just to myself, it actually happened more toward female Roegadyn than toward me when I personally was a Roegadyn) and Hrothgar.

    And I say "Light", because it happened in the OF's a few times when doing Savage with randos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    That has been my experience, yes. I have an alt in Crystal, but haven't really interacted with people there to actually see how Americans are.

    But yeah, it's not just Zodiark people; it happens in Light on occasion. Specifically toward Roegadyn (not just to myself, it actually happened more toward female Roegadyn than toward me when I personally was a Roegadyn) and Hrothgar.

    And I say "Light", because it happened in the OF's a few times when doing Savage with randos.
    Lol, sounds like Id have a...Interesting time. Im a FemRoe, and my ALT is a Hrothgar.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Lol, sounds like Id have a...Interesting time. Im a FemRoe, and my ALT is a Hrothgar.
    Basically in my old FC I had a Femroe who was organizing an event with Light Femroes via Discord. They were to meet outside our FC house, though the event wouldn't take place only indoors. So, this being that mansion by the Mist's beach, they moved the event there at some point, with our FC helping out and engaging. So the whole beach was full of Femroes, and out of nowhere comes this random Miqo'te, sees a beach full of Femroes and starts verbally harassing them, calling them names, saying crap about their sexuality and the preferences of their players... The guy only stopped when one of them told him to kindly remove himself before she laid the law on him. Except, on less friendlier terms. When asked about the guy, their reaction was just "It's unfortunate, but we're used to it".

    So yeah :T there's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Basically in my old FC I had a Femroe who was organizing an event with Light Femroes via Discord. They were to meet outside our FC house, though the event wouldn't take place only indoors. So, this being that mansion by the Mist's beach, they moved the event there at some point, with our FC helping out and engaging. So the whole beach was full of Femroes, and out of nowhere comes this random Miqo'te, sees a beach full of Femroes and starts verbally harassing them, calling them names, saying crap about their sexuality and the preferences of their players... The guy only stopped when one of them told him to kindly remove himself before she laid the law on him. Except, on less friendlier terms. When asked about the guy, their reaction was just "It's unfortunate, but we're used to it".

    So yeah :T there's that.
    I have heard stories from Ultros friends how in Limsa there used to be a miqo'te who would hurl racist slurs at people that sat on his spot. Not sure if he ever got dealt with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Must be a thing on Zodiark, over here on Adamantoise its very Friendly.
    Or maybe Im just somehow lucky enough to avoid all this drama everyone talks about.

    Worse I ever get is in PF for the Newest High Tier Raid content.
    Also on Zodiark and met no racists or seen slurs being thrown from people. Lets not label a server as racist or unfriendly when it's a tiny few that are dicks (ykno like on every server).
    I've hopped into several communities and the only time salt becomes a thing is from raiding or interpersonal drama. Frankly idk how people manage to find so many racists to claim that blatant racism is "going around". I am more inclined to think they are exaggerating tbh. One/two instance of meeting a jerk in game does not a racist/unfriendly server make.

    Seen zero of this Roe racism personally, not to say it doesn't happen, and we have had one playing with us for a long time. He has no racist experiences from playing Roe. Anyone stupid enough to belittle based on in game race deserves a report and swift ban. Kindly don't label zodiark or the entire Light DC as racist.. just wow.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    Also on Zodiark and met no racists or seen slurs being thrown from people. Lets not label a server as racist or unfriendly when it's a tiny few that are dicks (ykno like on every server).
    I've hopped into several communities and the only time salt becomes a thing is from raiding or interpersonal drama. Frankly idk how people manage to find so many racists to claim that blatant racism is "going around". I am more inclined to think they are exaggerating tbh. One/two instance of meeting a jerk in game does not a racist/unfriendly server make.

    Seen zero of this Roe racism personally, not to say it doesn't happen, and we have had one playing with us for a long time. He has no racist experiences from playing Roe. Anyone stupid enough to belittle based on in game race deserves a report and swift ban. Kindly don't label zodiark or the entire Light DC as racist.. just wow.
    Honestly I just personally thought it happened on every data center. Like, there's a Discord literally called "FF14 Tall Races" where unless you're Au Ra, Viera, Hrothgar, Roegadyn or Elezen, you can't go in. So I assumed it'd be general.

    Now it's great you haven't had that experience as a Roe yourself, but that has been my experience and that of some of my friends. I'm not saying Zodiark is bad. Nor that Light itself is. It's not a "racist data center" specifically, but I have seen and been a target of slurs and active discrimination. Not just name-calling.

    I went on the OF's to try savages, got told off for being a Roegadyn, and got told off for being a furry. And by "told off", I don't mean light jabs or anything, I mean actual malice that led the party leader to kick the person out.

    I go on venues and they kick Hrothgars out because "oh we don't want to be associated to zoophilia". (edit): It's not even an ERP venue to my knowledge, it's literally just a bar!! And afaik they also kick out Lalafells because "pedophilia".

    It's why I say the community isn't at all as nice as people think it is. Because it sure as hell hasn't been as far as I could see. When I was Miqo'te or Au Ra, didn't see any comment. Nor when I was Highlander for a whole year. But when I was Roegadyn and now Hrothgar, yeah, there's venom being spat and without filter.

    Whether this is on Light, or I've just been unlucky, I couldn't tell you. All I can say is what I've experienced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Honestly I just personally thought it happened on every data center. Like, there's a Discord literally called "FF14 Tall Races" where unless you're Au Ra, Viera, Hrothgar, Roegadyn or Elezen, you can't go in. So I assumed it'd be general.

    Now it's great you haven't had that experience as a Roe yourself, but that has been my experience and that of some of my friends. I'm not saying Zodiark is bad. Nor that Light itself is. It's not a "racist data center" specifically, but I have seen and been a target of slurs and active discrimination. Not just name-calling.

    I went on the OF's to try savages, got told off for being a Roegadyn, and got told off for being a furry. And by "told off", I don't mean light jabs or anything, I mean actual malice that led the party leader to kick the person out.

    I go on venues and they kick Hrothgars out because "oh we don't want to be associated to zoophilia". (edit): It's not even an ERP venue to my knowledge, it's literally just a bar!! And afaik they also kick out Lalafells because "pedophilia".

    It's why I say the community isn't at all as nice as people think it is. Because it sure as hell hasn't been as far as I could see. When I was Miqo'te or Au Ra, didn't see any comment. Nor when I was Highlander for a whole year. But when I was Roegadyn and now Hrothgar, yeah, there's venom being spat and without filter.

    Whether this is on Light, or I've just been unlucky, I couldn't tell you. All I can say is what I've experienced.
    Sounds more about preferences/fetish/kinks than a race problem.
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