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    Quote Originally Posted by Theox View Post
    If you're saying EW's story is good then you desperately need to read one classic book. Just pick one and read it. Please.
    I did. Now let's see your "objective" dissertation about the expansion. Go on, I'll wait. Let me see how you'll spin to paint art as objective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anura View Post
    I did. Now let's see your "objective" dissertation about the expansion. Go on, I'll wait. Let me see how you'll spin to paint art as objective.
    He's responding to someone calling people who did not enjoy it stupid and uncultured, so your demand would be better directed at them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Haruka_R View Post
    You aren't forced to care about anything. Sounds pretty miserable to me.
    When you go around acting as though it's a requirement to not being a miserable human being that you enjoy the story - wtf are you even smoking at that point? I'd like some of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post



    When you go around acting as though it's a requirement to not being a miserable human being that you enjoy the story - wtf are you even smoking at that point? I'd like some of it.
    Not sure what you mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruka_R View Post
    Not sure what you mean.
    He's saying. Just because someone didn't enjoy a shoddily written story doesn't make them miserable and if you truly believe that to be the case, puff puff pass B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    When you go around acting as though it's a requirement to not being a miserable human being that you enjoy the story - wtf are you even smoking at that point? I'd like some of it.
    LOL. It's just someone trolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    LOL. It's just someone trolling.
    All I did was commend someone for enjoying the story and people got mad ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anura View Post
    I did. Now let's see your "objective" dissertation about the expansion. Go on, I'll wait. Let me see how you'll spin to paint art as objective.
    Some people have taste and some don't, and taste comes with experience from you being subjected to tasteful things. As for the painting art as subjective, I've seen people taping banana to a wall calling it art. Now you can believe it is, but it won't stop me from stating it isn't, because we've all seen real art and deciding to be delusional because you like something that is just not good is totally on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theox View Post
    Some people have taste and some don't, and taste comes with experience from you being subjected to tasteful things. As for the painting art as subjective, I've seen people taping banana to a wall calling it art. Now you can believe it is, but it won't stop me from stating it isn't, because we've all seen real art and deciding to be delusional because you like something that is just not good is totally on you.
    So your argument is "it is because it is"? You have absolutely nothing to contribute to your ramblings. Nothing. What is "tasteful" has been defined by culture since the beginning of times, so tell me how your idea of "good art" is better than someone's that was born in a whole different culture, from a different continent. Your ridiculous idea falls flat when a good number of musicians and painters were shunned and spat at for daring to do something different than the norm.
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    Last edited by Anura; 05-29-2022 at 08:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anura View Post
    So your argument is "it is because it is"? You have absolutely nothing to contribute to your ramblings. Nothing. What is "tasteful" has been defined by culture since the beginning of times, so tell me how your idea of "good art" is better than someone's that was born in a whole different culture, from a different continent. Your ridiculous idea falls flat when a good number of musicians and painters were shunned and spat at for daring to do something different than the norm.
    Speaking of miserable human beings, mayhap I've found one. I am still waiting for you to direct this demand of yours to the poster who made this point in the first place. Do you want me to help you find their post?
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    Last edited by Lauront; 05-29-2022 at 08:42 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anura View Post
    So your argument is "it is because it is"? You have absolutely nothing to contribute to your ramblings. Nothing. What is "tasteful" has been defined by culture since the beginning of times, so tell me how your idea of "good art" is better than someone's that was born in a whole different culture, from a different continent. Your ridiculous idea falls flat when a good number of musicians and painters were shunned and spat at for daring to do something different than the norm.
    Where did Endwalker dare to do anything 'different to the norm', exactly? It embraced so many of the dullest tropes in existence such as 'rules for thee, but not for me', 'genocide is okay when a pretty lady does it' and 'character is dead but literally minutes later is brought back to life'. All alongside plenty of flashy and very impressive backdrops that, ultimately, amounted to very little of consequence.

    The fall of Dalamud ended up leaving deeper scars upon the land than the so called second coming of the literal apocalypse. The only lasting consequences in Endwalker are, conveniently, inflicted upon antagonists and very minor throwaway characters of little relevance in the grand scheme of things.
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