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    Rapiers

    I feel the need to ask, are the completely separate teams of people who work on the weapons in this game per class?

    The reason I'm asking is because when I look at Samurai weapons, they almost all look very sharp, at least relative to a lot of the other weapons in this game, which have wedges wide enough to the point where they look like they'd crush a loaf of bread rather than cut it;

    In particular, or the most egregious ones IMO are the rapiers that Red Mages use, because a very unfortunate number of them look like Philips-head screwdrivers. Like they don't appear to have a cutting edge (which rapiers typically have, despite their forte being stabbing) they just have like 4 edges; none of which are particularly, i dont know, sharp looking? its almost like most of them are metal 2x2x50 chunk that you hit people with

    like really, just look at some of them from the front. if the tip looks more like [ ] then ()
    don't you think thats kinda weird? even stylistically i just feel like it looks bad

    so its almost like a ton of them are really long rectangular cuboids or even just flat out cylinders with a point; whats going on over there? would it really look so bad if they were a little thinner?

    try to look past this as like an OCD thing or something and as a actually point that should be discussed because this is basically a AAA game; i just wanna know if anyone else has noticed this
    and i'm totally aware that theyre half-staff, im just saying they are also half-sword, and i dont typically consider blunt chunks of metal swords
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    Last edited by Corvus_V; 05-24-2022 at 08:39 AM.
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    *Gets idea for a Fencing class*
    *Desire for Rapiers intensifies.*
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    in a fantasy game, most weapons, armor even magic.. is not based in reality.

    find what works best, FOR YOU, and use it. thats why glam is good. it will save a lot of mental gymnastics, and it seems ultimately, your sanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    *Gets idea for a Fencing class*
    *Desire for Rapiers intensifies.*
    rapiers are woefully underrated and underrepresented in fantasy despite being as good as they are

    but heres an example

    this is murgleis, which is kind of fat tbh but a step in the right direction



    this is the shire rapier



    durium lol



    allagan




    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    in a fantasy game, most weapons, armor even magic.. is not based in reality.

    find what works best, FOR YOU, and use it. thats why glam is good. it will save a lot of mental gymnastics, and it seems ultimately, your sanity.
    theres alot more but i just have to wonder among all the people who play the class, does anyone actually like this? i typically just use murgleis, as im well aware i should just use what works best for me; but i just feel like this kind of looks awful so i dont know who it's serving is more my point; since (to me) most of them just look really really bad. there's very few of them i like
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    Last edited by Corvus_V; 05-24-2022 at 08:53 AM.
    yeah, i'll give him the wrap. but foist, i gotta wrap this FISH.

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    Behold!
    A thrusting sword!



    (Yeah, the rapiers are absolutely bonkers and I struggle to find one that actually feels like a cool duelist's sword...)
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    ~sigh~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus_V View Post
    theres alot more but i just have to wonder among all the people who play the class, does anyone actually like this? i typically just use murgleis, as im well aware i should just use what works best for me; but i just feel like this kind of looks awful so i dont know who it's serving is more my point; since (to me) most of them just look really really bad. there's very few of them i like
    I will generally use the Talekeeper recollection, seems fairly rapierish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    Behold!
    A thrusting sword!



    (Yeah, the rapiers are absolutely bonkers and I struggle to find one that actually feels like a cool duelist's sword...)
    its basically a spear with no cutting edge. it just feels odd to me that someone at square enix is calling the shots to make them all look like this. i feel like since you dont hold it like a staff at every other time than casting it should look like a sword when youre holding it.
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    Last edited by Corvus_V; 05-24-2022 at 08:58 AM.
    yeah, i'll give him the wrap. but foist, i gotta wrap this FISH.

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    SE definitely has a sub-set of RDM weapons that are supposed to look more like canes or staves you are holding in a horribly wrong way. Not really my cup of tea but soneone must like those... Right?
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    To be somewhat fair, it's also a magic wand that you sometimes use to directly hit things with charged magic power. It does rather pathetic damage in its unenchanted state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    To be somewhat fair, it's also a magic wand that you sometimes use to directly hit things with charged magic power. It does rather pathetic damage in its unenchanted state.
    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    SE definitely has a sub-set of RDM weapons that are supposed to look more like canes or staves you are holding in a horribly wrong way. Not really my cup of tea but soneone must like those... Right?
    it feels like more than a subset to me

    i know, i acknowledged that its a half sword, half staff, but you only hold it like a staff when youre casting with it basically; its kind of weird for the combat idle to be a fencing stance where youre holding a completely different weapon improperly lol
    this is a little bit of an exaggeration but its almost like if the samurai's sword only appeared during the iai attacks, like regardless of how often you cast, you always return to a combat idle in-between GCDs, why would the weapon not look like it fit that, rather than the sword being the most important part until you cast, and after that point the focus is what makes it look like a staff?

    Like to be super clear, im absolutely complaining about the way the sword half of it looks, not the part that attaches to the focus lol
    like im totally cool with the existence of gimmicky weapons, like the Zantetsuken that only pops out when you take it out, or the WAR weapons that are hammers; infact I think some classes should get more of them (like samurai, which has afaik never once deviated from the standard katana, there's no longsword variants or anything akin to a joke weapon) but Red Mage has ALOT of canes and things that look absolutely nothing like swords
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    Last edited by Corvus_V; 05-24-2022 at 10:01 AM.
    yeah, i'll give him the wrap. but foist, i gotta wrap this FISH.

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