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  1. #111
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    Oopsy's Avatar
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    Oopsy Hiero
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    Malboro
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Pros:
    They want it.
    They can measure compute their states and formulate strategies using a program to give them advise.

    Cons:
    Harassment.
    Not the intended play style.
    Advantage over users who do not use the tool.
    Use of addons that go beyond strictly parsing.
    Game information is mined and collected.

    Counter:
    Harassment - No one would do that its against the rules on its own. - followed by calling players bad for their lack of stats on websites that people upload others parsed data to. so how could they be harassed their just bad.

    Not the intended play style. - Its not needed but makes things easier. People want to play better but don't know how without hard calculated evidence from a computer program and script telling them as such. Also followed by arguments the the ones bring up that the game wasn't intended to be played that way are just bad players and could never do that content... further proving harassment.

    Use of addons that go beyond strictly parsing. - but that would be against the rules, maybe? and also doesn't happen... often....

    Game information is mined and collected. - You just don't understand how data works, it was already there... - no valid counter really made.


    Please tell me where I misunderstood?
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    Last edited by Oopsy; 05-17-2022 at 10:01 PM.

  2. #112
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    SwingLifeAway's Avatar
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    Oberon Astraxis
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    Moogle
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Literally cope harder lmao

    40% GCD uptime player doesn't want parsing to be a thing, gee wonder why LOL
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    Last edited by SwingLifeAway; 05-17-2022 at 10:04 PM.

  3. #113
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    Grebeny's Avatar
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    Rude Delahayne
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oopsy View Post
    Harassment - No one would do that its against the rules on its own. - followed by calling players bad for their lack of stats on websites that people upload others parsed data to. so how could they be harassed their just bad.

    Not the intended play style. - Its not needed but makes things easier. People want to play better but don't know how without hard calculated evidence from a computer program and script telling them as such. Also followed by arguments the the ones bring up that the game wasn't intended to be played that way are just bad players and could never do that content... further proving harassment.
    I am not against people using DPS metter, however, how a game is intended to play is not your decision, it is what developers design. That is why they pay to their game designers, not to you. "Making game easier" is the exact meaning of what cheating is, how is that counter argument??
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  4. #114
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    Kieran Cryo
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Y'all ever regret looking up someone's name on the site that must not be named?
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  5. #115
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    Darksummoner's Avatar
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    Meteon U'mani
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 77
    You guys need to stop arguing with all these Witch-Hunters. They crave this crap. Some of them are attention *!@#*&* if you know what I mean. Please just let them grovel in their vomit of excuses. Just enjoy the game. Let them wonder off into oblivion or something. Just continuing having fun with whatever you are doing in the game, and on your own computer.
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    Last edited by Darksummoner; 05-18-2022 at 02:05 AM.

  6. #116
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    Denser Lorj
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    Tonberry
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oopsy View Post
    Pros:
    They want it.
    They can measure compute their states and formulate strategies using a program to give them advise.

    Cons:
    Harassment.
    Not the intended play style.
    Advantage over users who do not use the tool.
    Use of addons that go beyond strictly parsing.
    Game information is mined and collected.

    Counter:
    Harassment - No one would do that its against the rules on its own. - followed by calling players bad for their lack of stats on websites that people upload others parsed data to. so how could they be harassed their just bad.

    Not the intended play style. - Its not needed but makes things easier. People want to play better but don't know how without hard calculated evidence from a computer program and script telling them as such. Also followed by arguments the the ones bring up that the game wasn't intended to be played that way are just bad players and could never do that content... further proving harassment.

    Use of addons that go beyond strictly parsing. - but that would be against the rules, maybe? and also doesn't happen... often....

    Game information is mined and collected. - You just don't understand how data works, it was already there... - no valid counter really made.


    Please tell me where I misunderstood?
    The part where this isn't for players that aren't interested in putting effort for difficult content. And for what I've already said, not meant to be here, you.

    all addons are ToS breaking, said many times now, not limited to "parsers" to begin with except for the niche 2013 statement of Gshade.

    See that battle log that seems like clutter? You don't need to know most of it and I doubt people cleaned it up to show relevant information.
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  7. #117
    Player kpxmanifesto's Avatar
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    Last Starfighter
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Why isn't pyromancer banned then? Squares enforcement cannot begin and end at "send a message with an example" otherwise...it's not gonna actually go any way to accomplishing Yoshidas goal of pure first party ffxiv.
    We probably won't ever see him respond to this comment. The pyromancer double standard pokes a huge hole through their argument.
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  8. #118
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    Upirlikhyi's Avatar
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    Vrajitoare Upir
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by EagleDynamics View Post
    seriously. banning someone for using a party buff timer and a dps meter has got to be one of the dumbest things ive ever heard of. ive used mods like these when i used to play wow a long time ago and all it did was help me become a better player.
    wow allows them. FF14 does not.
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    I can't wait to watch your ego bleed
    Your pain will set me free

  9. #119
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    Upirlikhyi's Avatar
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    Vrajitoare Upir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksummoner View Post
    You guys need to stop arguing with all these Witch-Hunters. They crave this crap. Some of them are attention *!@#*&* if you know what I mean. Please just let them grovel in their vomit of excuses. Just enjoy the game. Let them wonder off into oblivion or something. Just continuing having fun with whatever you are doing in the game, and on your own computer.
    Hey Hey....Whose hunting witches? I need to hide then
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    I can't wait to watch your ego bleed
    Your pain will set me free

  10. #120
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    Kismet Altius
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    Louisoix
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    Reaper Lv 100
    If you're talking about who I think you're talking about.
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