Y'shtola is a Mary Sue.

[Caurcas]

Y'shtola is supremely boring.

[stefnSS]

I know I have a long way still to go and I feel a bit bad for resurrecting this thread but Y'shtola is the embodiment of average and zealousy of anime community, and it's painful. I mean she is ok, but nothing special even in terms of design (take a way that and she would be sidelined, along with some other unremarkable characters. Even Magitek Armor you encounter in MSQ has more interesting stuff going on - alas it is brief.

And the way she is represented from the early story arch and onwards is nothing to boast about. I bet she shapes further down the storyline (spoiled myself here and there and can't stop with eye's rolling at few things regarding her, so cliche ) but even in the early stages up to story build-up before HS (*2.0+), I see other characters around her shaping and maturing at a much more notable pace. (and she is plain as any of them in the AAR arc)

[Eross]

I mean, she's blind but still can read books... to me she's being written in awful way and I don't like her as a character overall. I always hoped that they would get rid of her but she has too many simps all around and she drives some plots so.

[YukikoKurosawa]

Sadly she's the only relevant female miqo'te character in the entire game.

[Shuuli]

Sadly she's the only relevant female miqo'te character in the entire game.

Well yes if you never played summoner, you did not meet her sister who is much more likeable...

To me they don't want to explain anything more about Yshtole cause they are afraid that it would lose some of her fans and she has a lot of simps in the JP and other servers.

The moment you start to give her more depths you will lose some of these people.

If I ask anyone to define what you think as her personality is. Literal everyone would give a different answer. (It is also depending if yous tarted in Limsa or Gridania or Uldah, cause In Limsa she is the Scion that introduces you to the team.)

She is just kept the way she is cause the people can fantasize better about her this way.

[sagacious]

Well yes if you never played summoner, you did not meet her sister who is much more likeable...

To me they don't want to explain anything more about Yshtole cause they are afraid that it would lose some of her fans and she has a lot of simps in the JP and other servers.

The moment you start to give her more depths you will lose some of these people.

If I ask anyone to define what you think as her personality is. Literal everyone would give a different answer. (It is also depending if yous tarted in Limsa or Gridania or Uldah, cause In Limsa she is the Scion that introduces you to the team.)

She is just kept the way she is cause the people can fantasize better about her this way.

I love the strong silent type and yes I dream about her because she is so strong it makes me weak in the knees

[Droxybrobotnik]

The entire story is a big Mary Sue, dude. What do you think would have happened if that airship has not crashed into the shield generator in the castrum? Or if the Garleans had put the generator inside the shield.

[Gemina]

I'm surprised I missed this thread. At least I think I did.

Like quite a few others, I am indifferent to Y'shtola. I wouldn't call her a Mary-Sue, and that term seems to get away from people to simply just describe a character they don't like. Y'shtola is full of weaknesses, but a flaw with her character is that she perceives those weaknesses as nothing more than inconveniences. As such, she doesn't actually take them to heart to learn from them, which has stunted her growth as a character. That is basically why Y'shtola now isn't much different from ARR Y'shtola.

In my own character's lore, Y'shtola is the Scion she connects with the least emotionally. Kind of a given considering how Y'shtola is, but they actually butt heads from time to time. Their relationship is very much like sisters who are as alike as they are different, but still love and care for each other greatly. Both my character and Y'shtola are very icy, and I would like to think that Menphina and Halone have a similar relationship with each other.

[Amenara]

She could have had great development with her blindness and learning to deal with it while trying to minimize her use of seeing the aether around her, but they kinda just ignored that seeing the aether reduces her lifespan and use it at every possible moment. I don't necessarily think she is a Mary Sue, but I think she is the most boring main character in the game, which is saying something since I think all the Scions are pretty boring now.

[Neoyoshi]

The best remedy for an annoying waifu, is to design a better one.

If only they'd put more work into Lyse. If only.