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    Quote Originally Posted by SwingLifeAway View Post
    Doesn't preclude anyone from criticizing the terms of service either. Cheats and QoL do not have to be simultaneously allowed. You're literally just wasting time trying to derail the conversation from anything productive.
    By all means, criticize the Terms of Service, they do have some vague enough components. But this thread is hardly about criticizing them versus trying to discredit peoples' arguments regarding third-party tools because they either do not care about their argument or because they do not raid or parse, or equally because some of these add-ons are niche and therefore should not be considered.

    Sorry but this entire thread is essentially unconducive to productive debate.

    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Kind of doesn't matter though (in terms of following the ToS) as it's not enforced unless you're reported and happen to catch a GM at the right time. If people can get away with something, they will and have done so for years now (referring to people I've come into contact with over my two years in the game). We're also never going to get an official anti-cheat with the game so I don't really see a legit solution to the problem. I also don't believe the game should have anti-cheat or any kind of automated bot moderation as that usually causes more problems than it solves (I've gotten a temp ban from a game before for saying "training".)

    Personally though, I don't see an issue with the majority of add-ons outside of pvp related ones and using them in terms of official races such as WF. There are way more harmless ones out there than ones that negatively impact the game.
    There is no realistic or tangible solution to the problem. You either start cracking down on your terms of service and ensure that people abide by them when you take a hard stance on the matter. Or you give a list of permissible tools and add-ons which is not a feasible undertaking due to the necessity to constantly revise said list when features change of a given add-on or when new ones are released. Just isn't feasible unless you enjoy scouring the entire internet. Personally, I think it's clear enough already.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 05-14-2022 at 06:48 PM.