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  1. #11
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Positives of anti-cheat;
    • Temporary disruption of illicit behavior as developers scramble to find workarounds. Brief period of few to no functioning bots/cheating players. Certain players who cheat now may no longer be the willing to risk cheating in future times.

    Negatives of anti-cheat;
    • RMT/Cheating groups will bypass within weeks to months of release (depending on chosen method, all current deployments have working bypass).
    • Linux and Mac users will experience issues running the game, possibly for substantial period of time.
    • VM users (Linux/Mac users running hardware pass through Windows VM) will also experience issues without tweaking VM. May still experience the issues anyway.
    • All addons will break temporarily. Regardless of how you may feel about this can guarantee it will make substantial number of players displeased.
    • There will be performance overhead.
    • Overlay software may require update to function. This means Discord - Steam - Afterburner - Nvidia Share - Etc. If anti-cheat is overly aggressive some of these may never function properly.
    • Opens floodgates for nonsense such as 'only five install limit'.
    Anti-cheat software is development nightmare for the teams forced to implement it. In the end tis irrelevant at doing what it claims to do and fantastic at causing disruptions for legitimate users. Majority of the type of cheat detection most are asking for can and should be implemented server side. Thank the twelve Square is unwilling to do this due to laws most varied.
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  2. #12
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    A'carisa Merahk
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    As always, I'd rather not FF XIV come with bloatware that constitutes a massive violation of the right to privacy by scanning software run on the user's computer.
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    Deedlit Parn
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    It will never happen, period. It would violate privacy laws in various countries the game is distributed in.
    SE has never cared about cheaters, they even actively suppress conversations and attempts by player to interrupt them.
    Yes, I'm talking about THAT discord server.
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Anti-cheat doesn't solve issues with cheating in game. It just punishes everyone else by making the game run worse. The same issues we have here in this game still exist in games that use anti-cheat
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  5. #15
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    Alijana Tumet
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    They don't need an anti-cheat; they just need to enable the GMs to be able to actually go after people who are using cheats that can be readily identified.

    You don't need "special tools" to tell that someone who's perma-sprinting, ignoring CC effects, and/or removing animation delays is cheating, but their insistence of making the actioning of those things strictly on the STF is precisely why they're able to get away with it for so long.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 05-14-2022 at 08:24 AM.

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    Saya Finwel
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    Omega
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    I rather have them get rid of pvp (even though i love it now) than having another malware installed on my pc, i swear some people just beg to get screwed over this days.

    Also ... what do you mean by "anymore" ? :3
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  7. #17
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    Anti-cheat software? No thanks. But more active and responsive monitoring of PvP play, including fast actioning of cheating reports, absolutely. You're never going to stamp out cheating entirely but if it becomes common knowledge that cheating will land you with a lengthy ban and a permanent mark on your service account then it will help dissuade those who are closer to the fence.
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  8. #18
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Anti-cheat is pointless for the reasons mentioned. What would ACTUALLY work, is having a right click -> Report function, particularly in PvP, then paying a couple additional GMs to police these reports and ban cheaters on the spot. There's no better anti-cheat then other players, brigading and witch hunting aside (and also why you have the GM make the actual determination)
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  9. #19
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    You're wrong, i've been facing cheaters since the feast was a thing with people stun or silence you the moment the press the LB button.
    Wasn't aware back then what's going on, till i found out about the programe cheaters are using and seen a dude using it in stream.

    "FFXIV" is good but cheaters are turning honest players into "Minion" for them to farm... If you see what I mean
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    Last edited by Bloodborne; 05-14-2022 at 04:56 PM.

  10. #20
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    Phyx Pixls
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    Marilith
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Anti-cheats hurt innocent people more than the ones you want punished. You should ask to empower GMs instead.

    Been banned different times by Nexon's "anticheat software" a very long time ago, for absolutely nothing by just playing normally.
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    >> https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets <<

    Come on SE, more dyeable mogstore npc outfits and 60/70 alliance raid gear. Do them all.

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