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  1. #11
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    Lecru's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    I think the solution would be to unclaim all "0 bug" houses and make people bid on them again.
    Took me 3 seconds to come up with that.
    That isn't fair in the least bit. Glad you aren't on the team lmfao Lets be honest. You just want a shot at moving your house to a Large because of this
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  2. #12
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    That isn't fair in the least bit. Glad you aren't on the team lmfao Lets be honest. You just want a shot at moving your house to a Large because of this
    How is it not fair? You lose literally nothing. Heck I wouldn't mind giving my house up that I won if they did that properly either.
    What did you lose?
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waschbaer View Post
    shitstorm inc cause i want my refund too!
    Were you effected by the 0 out? No you say? Then sit down and enjoy that house you have been using since the issue came up
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    How is it not fair? You lose literally nothing. Heck I wouldn't mind giving my house up that I won if they did that properly either.
    "You lose literally nothing". Yeah, except for those that were the ONLY bidders on the house and are GUARANTEED the house. Yeah, lets reroll those plots and scre those people over because you're salty and want a bigger house for your FC. This is proper. You're just angry at the outcome.
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  5. #15
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    I think that there are ways of taking a specific amount of Gil from a character without rolling them back fully. The one-time item restoration can add an item back to your inventory (or even give you a different item when you messed up token purchases) without changing anything else.
    If nothing else, would there not be third party companies who could be trusted and hired to dig through a set of data in order to work out who owes what?

    I really, really do not want this situation being exploited down the road as an excuse to implement some sort of 'monthly rent' system for player houses because there's too much excess gil present in the economy...
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    "You lose literally nothing". Yeah, except for those that were the ONLY bidders on the house and are GUARANTEED the house. Yeah, lets reroll those plots and scre those people over because you're salty and want a bigger house for your FC. This is proper. You're just angry at the outcome.
    Ah I see it's not fair because YOU bid on a single bidder house and rub your hands for the free house. Yes for people like you the solution would indeed suck. "Fair" point.
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  7. #17
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    Caelia Silverarch
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    I think that there are ways of taking a specific amount of Gil from a character without rolling them back fully. The one-time item restoration can add an item back to your inventory (or even give you a different item when you messed up token purchases) without changing anything else.
    But since that's only restoration and not deducting for someone who, say, accidentally threw away their Dalamud Horn or something and can't reclaim it - it's not the other way around, and trying to figure that out would take longer than necessary when they already have the fix ready to go.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    I think the solution would be to unclaim all "0 bug" houses and make people bid on them again.
    Took me 3 seconds to come up with that.

    People could reclaim their gil and bid again.
    They could also have made the NPC in 6.2 make you pay it by 6.25 or something, I'm well aware. However, I feel that this is more of an apology to the winning bidders on a house who would have won the house but then got beat out by a 0 who have now had to wait a full month for this issue to be fixed, even though they were the recorded winners. I know what will come next, so before the cry of "well I paid in full for my house": so did I. I didn't have to wait a month for it because of a bug in the system when I was the winner of the house with those added frustrations, though, and this is honestly the least the devs can do to apologize beyond fixing the issue. I'm sure there will be people who will want to deduct the amount from their gil to feel "honest" or whatever, and there will be plenty who don't because they feel it's the least SE can do for their frustration. Neither are wrong in their feelings on the matter tbh.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    Were you effected by the 0 out? No you say? Then sit down and enjoy that house you have been using since the issue came up
    Are we to blame for the bug? Is it fair we payed 4m, 20m and 50m for our houses while some people get theirs for free because the game fked up? Either give us all the money back, or take it from everyone. It's nice that people who were affected by the bug can keep their house, but come on, make them pay. It's already nice enough that they will keep the house instead of it being rerolled.
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  9. #19
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    Rica Elak'ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    If nothing else, would there not be third party companies who could be trusted and hired to dig through a set of data in order to work out who owes what?

    I really, really do not want this situation being exploited down the road as an excuse to implement some sort of 'monthly rent' system for player houses because there's too much excess gil present in the economy...
    I am by no means an expert in tech stuff, but I think it comes down to filter out all the plots that got the 0, compare with the data of who the real winner was, then look through the data and see who got their Gil refunded and take it back from those people... so... maybe this detective work can be outsourced? But just some musings, I'm not a tech person.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

  10. #20
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    Lecruidant Longclaw
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    Quote Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki View Post
    Are we to blame for the bug? Is it fair we payed 4m, 20m and 50m for our houses while some people get theirs for free because the game fked up? Either give us all the money back, or take it from everyone. It's nice that people who were affected by the bug can keep their house, but come on, make them pay. It's already nice enough that they will keep the house instead of it being rerolled.
    You paid what you paid and you got your hosue right away. While others got 0'd out and took their gil thinking they lost when they didn't. That's not on them either. You've been decorating and using your house this entire time while others didn't know if they needted to make that gil up or not. This doesn't involve you at this point as you are using what you won. Let the 0'd out people get what is coming to them and move on
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