Please, Get Rid of Quick Chat

[Lammas]

I like the quick chat. If someone doesn't say hello I know that they are either new to PvP, stupid, or a jerk who doesn't care about working with the team. First impressions are everything.

OMG This is too funny.
If you think that a person pressing a button at the start of the match that writes "Hello." in the chat for them is a measure of their character or competency I don't even know what to tell you.

[Shirala]

OMG This is too funny.
If you think that a person pressing a button at the start of the match that writes "Hello." in the chat for them is a measure of their character or competency I don't even know what to tell you.

Another case in point.

[Tobias_Azuryon]

Quick Chat is missing a few options it needs, but it's fundamentally perfectly fine.

The only thing I disagree with is missing a "few" options.

I'd say Quick chat is quite useless in its current iteration outside of tagging a single target and chat spam.

If an enemy is coming around the side instead of going through mid? No chat option for that.

If you're getting ganked in the back line? No chat option for that.

If you're going to go help someone? Cover is the only option and it's bad.

If you want to assist someone or coordinate LBs? LB ready isn't enough.

If you want tell someone to help someone else while you hold the point? Nothing.

If you want to tell the team to conserve LB for the oncoming zerg rush? Nothing.

Of you want to warn the team about a field effect? Nothing. (Perfect opportunity for Danger Bongos)

If you want to tell the team to play defense for a bit? Nada.

If you want to explain that there's 4 people on the point and there's no point going in to die? Nothing but listening to "push the crystal" sfx spam (something like "there's too many" or something would go a long way here).

I get that the matches go by quick and you won't be able to perfect strategize but the sheer lack of tools to coordinate make it where I can understand why people want full chat even if I disagree. You can't time your LBs with someone outside of a generic LB ready, you can't coordinate pincer attacks, you can't even tell them why you're leaving the crystal to help the people who are getting rocked behind you by the nin/mnk/etc. It's really difficult to coordinate when everyone in the room thinks they're the leader and that the rest of the team is "abandoning them" or "not doing their job" when there's a reason you leave or retreat 9 times out of 10. I know part of that is on the other people but the lack of options is bad too.

[ShiroeTengoku]

1) Toxicity will escalate to unknown levels. I don't want people at base chatting how bad is everyone
2) It will raise so many support tickets will be insane.

If you don't think toxicity will be 10 times worse, u are delusional or never played other teamplay competitive games like MOBAs

You really shouldn't just guess things about people. I've played games like League of Legends since their beginning, Smite, Heroes of the Storm, Overwatch, and have always ranked in their upper tiers. When League first created their Challenger tier, I was in it for 3 straight years, then I ended up just leaving the game for other ones since I really wasn't having fun anymore. Smite I never got too into, and stopped at Diamond. Heroes of the Storm, my friends stopped playing, so I did too, Gold admittedly but we only played for 2 weeks. Overwatch I poured way too much time into, kept nothing less than Diamond.

Yes, I know what free chat is capable of, and guess what, we're already capable of such things in the game itself, for every other game mode, for every other function of this game. Absolutely nothing stops you from sending a message to that person after the match to harass them either. Also, people aren't going to get as toxic as you might suspect here, because Square actually cares about player experience. Just report it and it'll get taken care of. People are vastly more likely to complain about a person in private with their friends; whether in voice chat, a discord server's text channel, or even sometimes in their FC or linkshell chats. What I'm getting at is, the majority of complaints happen where the 'victim' can't see it, because they know they'll catch punishment if they vent too hard.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

It's a ranked pvp game, I want agency over my team members to be able to tell them things like "Don't split". I don't care if people get mouthy, I'm a big boy.

[iVolke]

It's a ranked pvp game, I want agency over my team members to be able to tell them things like "Don't split". I don't care if people get mouthy, I'm a big boy.

Unfortunately ff14 players generally have the mindset of "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will absolutely destroy me"

[Iyrnwaen]

It's a ranked pvp game, I want agency over my team members to be able to tell them things like "Don't split". I don't care if people get mouthy, I'm a big boy.

The problem with open chat isn't that your feelings might get hurt by naughty words. The problem with open chat is that it's a distraction.
Once you have one or two teammates concentrating on typing what they think of each other instead of playing the game, the match is over.
At least in LoL, you can carry through someone sitting in spawn talking shit. In CC, that's very unlikely.
Every clutch comeback you've ever pulled in CC after your opponents won the first engagement and steamrolled through the checkpoint would've been a loss with open chat.

[Doozer]

I like the quick chat. If someone doesn't say hello I know that they are either new to PvP, stupid, or a jerk who doesn't care about working with the team. First impressions are everything.

No, it's also possible they're just tired of "Hello!" "Hello! "Hello! "Hello! "Hello!" and then their entire team just feeds the enemy because they don't understand what it means to actually try to win.

[Droxybrobotnik]

How about letting us make quickchat commands using auto translated words?

[ShiroeTengoku]

How about letting us make quickchat commands using auto translated words?

That was an idea I've had as well, but I don't know how I feel about it either. It would definitely widen the vocabulary to be useful, but we'll also just get weird macro messages of misplacing keyboards and other weird troll messages. I'm not against it personally, but judging by comments here so far, even the slightest 'annoying' or 'mean' thing is toxic and should be removed.