They are catering ultimates to casuals like they did with Elden Ring.

[Hanayumi]

Given how theres some missing aspects from the screenshots devs have shown from the fight with the current WF runners feels like there could be an entire 2nd version of the fight, if so the tiny checkpoint after the 1st phase is truely not that big if a deal...

[Maltothoris]

Well as it turns out there is a very good reason for why there is a checkpoint. And if you fail it again, the bosses get more up.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

So much complaining from people who aren't doing the ultimate

I kinda find this funny. Perspectives are nice...but your word would carry more Weight if you actually play it.

[Sailysium]

Well this thread sure aged poorly, as expected.

[NotReallyMistral]

Well this thread sure aged poorly, as expected.

Lmao, i came here to say the exact same thing xD

[Nekokaori]

This patch is the biggest slap in the face in all of ffxiv. Ultimate raids are supposed to be the highest expression of skill in this game. They're the best designed fights in any mmorpg, and they're the one thing this game had on WoW. And what does sqenix do? Put in a checkpoint like I'm playing new super mario bros with my baby cousins. They purposefully delayed this. Multiple times. E8S was supposed to be bis for this ultimate, except it wasn't. They said that they had to delay content because of covid, and they prioritized other things. That's fine. But then E12S came and went, and still no ultimate. Then we were told Endwalker was on the way, and there were bigger fish to fry. If any of you are unaware, here's a handy little chart:




Mark my words, this is the move that will kill their game

have you played elden ring its not exacly casual friendly lol

Unless you consinder god like players casual you auto dimiss ur wording with that

and to be honest wow is more casual friendly than elden ring the amount of grinding for your build the amount of practice with your new weapon that you love and amount of math envovled in your build lol

damn i wish ffxiv was like elden ring then real pros who can understand their weapon and how to use it would teach a thing or 2

[KariTheFox]

I know an ultimate progger that hates the door boss - not because it makes the fight "easier" or anything. But because when his gear breaks he has to leave the instance and kill progression, and now he feels obligated to level up crafting in order to repair his own stuff.

[ZedxKayn]

I know an ultimate progger that hates the door boss - not because it makes the fight "easier" or anything. But because when his gear breaks he has to leave the instance and kill progression, and now he feels obligated to level up crafting in order to repair his own stuff.

That's true in savage as well. But then the problem doesn't come from the door boss, it comes from the player. At least check your gear before instancing in, it should be able to last the entire instance...

[VirusOnline]

So not wasting time isn't an improvement, got it

Being able to consistently clear a phase because of cohesive understanding of the group is one thing, cheesing is another.
A good improvement to Ultimate may be to make the content even more difficult while cutting down the time of the encounter.

I'll take quality over quantity, especially concerning difficult content.

[dapperfaffer]

Isn't there a time warp mechanic after the end of phase 4?