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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    People made fun of others in the exact same way leading up to WoW eventually beginning to crumble. There is a tipping point that comes eventually; We're not there yet, but discontent among the player-base has become much more visible over the last few months.
    I think the biggest issue is the absolute tone deafness of Yoshi-P telling a section of the player base to go play Ultimate if they're unsatisfied. The amount of arrogance was ridiculous. Especially from a company who was supposed to have learned a lesson on that.

    Clearly not.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  2. #32
    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    I think the biggest issue is the absolute tone deafness of Yoshi-P telling a section of the player base to go play Ultimate if they're unsatisfied. The amount of arrogance was ridiculous. Especially from a company who was supposed to have learned a lesson on that.

    Clearly not.
    They trying to get them participation levels up.

    No I will be honest I think Yoshi P knows this game does not have 10 more years left. Likely SE is cutting the budget even more now that the story is finished.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    They trying to get them participation levels up.

    No I will be honest I think Yoshi P knows this game does not have 10 more years left. Likely SE is cutting the budget even more now that the story is finished.
    They're probably laying the groundwork to put this game on life-support.

    I wouldn't at all be surprised if there was a new MMO project in its very early stages at SE, which Yoshida will be working on in earnest after FF16 is completed.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    They're probably laying the groundwork to put this game on life-support.

    I wouldn't at all be surprised if there was a new MMO project in its very early stages at SE, which Yoshida will be working on in earnest after FF16 is completed.
    Eh, for all we actually know. This game was successful because that devs from FFXI helped rework it from 1.0 to 2.0. Yoshi P may have had very little to do with it. He definitely seems like nothing more than a PR rep at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    They trying to get them participation levels up.

    No I will be honest I think Yoshi P knows this game does not have 10 more years left. Likely SE is cutting the budget even more now that the story is finished.
    Because adding a whole new region, plus expanding servers in other regions, is the most obvious sign of thinking your game doesn't have 10 years left
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broken_Wind View Post
    Because adding a whole new region, plus expanding servers in other regions, is the most obvious sign of thinking your game doesn't have 10 years left
    They did that because the JP players wanted OCE players off there servers. They haven't expanded anything yet, other than JP servers and due to the player count likely won't bother to do so now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    They did that because the JP players wanted OCE players off there servers. They haven't expanded anything yet, other than JP servers and due to the player count likely won't bother to do so now.
    Except they put them in a place where SEA wasnt going to transfer so I dont buy this nonsense people post
    The facts dont back up the theory
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broken_Wind View Post
    Except they put them in a place where SEA wasnt going to transfer so I dont buy this nonsense people post
    The facts dont back up the theory
    You can look it up both complaints from the JP community about it and complaints about the OCE community about it. These servers were coming regardless of an influx of players or not. You can also look up the announcement where they have dates on when other servers would be updated. The only thing updated was JP everything else was scheduled after July 2022.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    They trying to get them participation levels up.

    No I will be honest I think Yoshi P knows this game does not have 10 more years left. Likely SE is cutting the budget even more now that the story is finished.
    Gotta love these mental gymnastics of yours of absolutely making no sense with asinine assumptions due to being super butthurt.
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    Last edited by Atelier-Bagur; 04-27-2022 at 05:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    They're probably laying the groundwork to put this game on life-support.

    I wouldn't at all be surprised if there was a new MMO project in its very early stages at SE, which Yoshida will be working on in earnest after FF16 is completed.
    I honestly think it's the obvious. All these changes feel like they are making this game so 'accessible' (I hate this word) that is appeals to a very large group of people. We saw this with every MMO before. They do expect to be online for 10 more years, and how old players feel is irrelevant. They only care about new players who will buy expansions and items off the mogstation. This isn't to talk smack this is just what the business is.
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