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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silhouettic View Post
    Question from a non-techy person. Would it work to have upgradeable housing? Like, everyone buys a small and pays to upgrade the existing plot to medium and/or large?
    It would be an awesome idea, just the underlying problem is the availability of housing to begin with.

    As an also non-techy person myself, I have a hard time believing that SE couldn't just add a system to upgrade your apartment and increase the size and scope of it so we can have all the perks of owning a house without touching the wards. Houses are instances on the inside and they do it for each type of house. Why not apartments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    It would be an awesome idea, just the underlying problem is the availability of housing to begin with.

    As an also non-techy person myself, I have a hard time believing that SE couldn't just add a system to upgrade your apartment and increase the size and scope of it so we can have all the perks of owning a house without touching the wards. Houses are instances on the inside and they do it for each type of house. Why not apartments?
    It's tottally possible and tbh that may be simple to code. Also to recode a "legacy" code there are plenty of tools to help with that, I wound't say convert the legacy code to a new one but these tools can recreate on a new language and if needed the programmer just make some fine adjustments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silhouettic View Post
    Question from a non-techy person. Would it work to have upgradeable housing? Like, everyone buys a small and pays to upgrade the existing plot to medium and/or large?
    If it's instanced is tottally possible to upgrade the house, just like we relocate small houses to large one. But as Corvu_V said, it needs to be a single house instanced with enough space to get the upgrade. That is not applicable to the ward design right now.
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    oh yay another thread asking the same dumb **** versus reading the other 200 threads for answers
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSxyNerd View Post
    oh yay another thread asking the same dumb **** versus reading the other 200 threads for answers
    Almost as if the developers never reply here and users aren't going to read through 10 years of posts???
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSxyNerd View Post
    oh yay another thread asking the same dumb **** versus reading the other 200 threads for answers
    Yay thanks for not helping at all, also if you read the other 200 threads you could read mine before commenting nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silhouettic View Post
    Question from a non-techy person. Would it work to have upgradeable housing? Like, everyone buys a small and pays to upgrade the existing plot to medium and/or large?
    YoshiP has already stated a firm No as answer to this. The housing system memory is not designed to accommodate estate upgrades. They would need to rebuild the housing system from scratch to give players the ability to upgrade.
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    I wish they would go into more detail about a lot of things about housing. I think a big step forward would be decoupling the workshop and gardens from the fc houses only. IMO it only serves to encourage house hoarding to farm these materials.

    Why not make an instanced "ironworks workshop" in mor dhona or an instanced garden plot area in greatloam growery? I feel like there are many possibilities that they aren't thinking about. And if they are thinking about these things, why not share it with the playerbase? Unless you can crossbreed in island sanctuary but they have been so tight lipped about that it's strange.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    YoshiP has already stated a firm No as answer to this. The housing system memory is not designed to accommodate estate upgrades. They would need to rebuild the housing system from scratch to give players the ability to upgrade.
    Honestly, I think they need to do that anyway....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    Honestly, I think they need to do that anyway....
    I don't think it entirely needs to be rebuilt from scratch, nor that it would be wise. As flawed as the system is, many players have already invested much in it. Convincing them that a new system will give them something better when they'd be losing something they've owned for several years would be a hard sell. It's the type of change that tends to lose a company a substantial amount of business even from those not directly affected.

    Switch their focus from wards to instanced housing and put their resources into improving that makes more sense. Wards can be left in place for the prestige chasers who like to compete against others. I suspect that intercross gardening would remain a ward exclusive as well based on what they've said about the weather reliance and lack of weather in instances. That would keep some demand in place for ward housing even if instanced housing design copied the ward design.
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