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  1. #41
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    Kleeya's Avatar
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    Kleeya White
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    Shiva
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    Do you know what midcore content is?
    He don't know what it is, you don't know as well, and me too. In fact nobody know. Because the problem with so called "midcore" content, is that the definition of what it should be vastly vary from one player to another. Someone who struggles to get an extreme trial done is not gonna have the same point of view as someone who is used to flatten every savage raids. And i don't even know if i should be using extreme trials as an exemple for the former, not when we did get huge complaints threads about way more easy content like this "from the cold" solo mission, or this 10 seconds QTE event where the whole team was wiping when one player only was failing it.

    I did a few times get some chuckles at some statics recruitment adds, who were like "searching people for this ultimate raid, we are training 6 hours per day and 6 days out of 7 per week, you must have BIS on your character and also be a top 5% parser, dont bother applying and dont make me waste my time if you are under that... Also don't worry, we are only a midcore static btw".

    I can assure you that if "midcore" content were to be added to the game, that there would still be the same amount of people complaining that it is way too easy, or way too hard XD
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  2. #42
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    Aries Helle
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    I have to add my two cents here as well that nothing stays challenging after being repeated multiple times.... by the time we were getting close to being BIS we were reclearing the savage raid tier in less than two hours for all 4 fights and we weren't a week one static or anything.

    I would love for all alliance raids to have the same level of kill potential this one does if you don't respect the mechanics however. And they all mostly did when they first came out, but now the gear/potency creep makes them extremely dull.

    quite frankly UNREAL shouldn't exist. That is what they should do with all content. I.E. Ultima Unreal is just Ultima EX rebalanced so the difficulty is close to what it was back in the day. There shouldn't be an Unreal EX in my opinion.... It should just be the OG Ultima Extreme trial if balancing was done right from the get go.

    Likewise, Unreal Alliance raids should just be normal alliance raids rebalanced so they can be close to the difficulty they were back in the day.

    Unreal is just admitting the games older content lives in a state of disrepair.
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  3. #43
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Theres definitely a balance, like im all for it being more difficult but id really hate to spend over an hour dealing with an alliance raid...
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  4. #44
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    I'm fine with the first raid being easier. Maybe it can be an introduction raid, and the other two can be more difficult.
    Fair, but then again that is level 90 content. Nothing really is 'introductory' past level 50 or so.
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  5. #45
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    Kuritzkale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    I was specifically talking about stuff in the alliance raid roulette. The roulette is designed to reward experienced players for assisting random players who are queueing into that stuff for the first time ever. I'm surprised that, as experienced as you claim to be, you haven't understood that yet.


    That doesn't change the fact that it's going to be their first time running this raid. As many of you flexers have said, the raid was challenging and difficult for you on week 1. That was how it was intended. It was never meant to keep challenging you forever.
    Again you are completely incapable of engaging with what people say, and I have to say your smugness falls completely flat given how stupid you've made yourself out to be. It's everyones first time running the new raid, not solely new players. They will have done alliance raids before. Nobody is asking for the raid to be challenging forever, you're just making things up in your mind to get upset about and then projecting them onto what I said. And if you were talking about the alliance raid roulette you should have said that originally instead of editing your comment after I responded to it and getting pissy that I didn't somehow divine you were specifically talking about that. And I haven't claimed anywhere to be experienced, yet another thing you're just making up.
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  6. #46
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    Kyuuen Queles
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    While I admit there does seem to be an issue wherein LB3 isn't being hit with some of the parties, but this argument that the first tier of previous raids was harder is laughable with one exception and that being Hashmal (or however it's spelt) and that's only because people would tunnel vision and not do mechanics properly.
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  7. #47
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    Zaniel Taephen
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    I take the non-adversarial approach to this, my view is that the FF14 playerbase are actually better at mechanics than most give them credit for. This isn't LFR in WoW, the majority of players are capable of breathing and pressing buttons at the same time. So we could probably dial it up 10% and most people could still handle it.
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  8. #48
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    Ara Amai
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuskTS View Post
    I don't get this forum obsession with turning every content into savage.
    Just go play Elden Ring if you want to stress your hair out over pixels.
    If you don't find FFXIV engaging enough go do Ultimate like Yoshi-P says.
    Comments like this are this are starting to make me sick, not only an ingeuine response but also such stupid comparasions. I guess this is just this game's community at this point.
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  9. #49
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaniel View Post
    I take the non-adversarial approach to this, my view is that the FF14 playerbase are actually better at mechanics than most give them credit for. This isn't LFR in WoW, the majority of players are capable of breathing and pressing buttons at the same time. So we could probably dial it up 10% and most people could still handle it.
    Increasing the HP and damage of bosses won't make it harder it's just going to make the fights take longer than normal. Which is the biggest complaint everyone has about the Nier raids and why so many people abandon them when they show up in roulette, they aren't hard they just take a long time because every boss has high HP.
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  10. #50
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    I don't get it. Outside of maybe the latter Ivalice raids, nothing really struck me as being tuned well with regards to alliance raids. Didn't exactly need to be awake whilst doing raids either. Weeping City was a joke, minus people getting flatlined by Mega Death.
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