Thoughts on PVP balancing - before nerfing war/rdm/drg/etc

[MagiMog]

* Balance is all over the place right now. Did they even test their game mode ?

Warrior is completely broken (who thought Primal Rend was a balanced ability ????????????)

Samourai-Red Mage-White Mage are too good.

Paladin, Bard and Black Mage are completely worthless (pretty much an instant lose if you have a Paladin on your team).

Purify needs to last longer for CC immunity. With the amount of CC in this mode ...

* Cheaters are all over the place

Infinite MP, +++++ speed. Knowing Square-Enix they won't do anything about it like they did with cheaters in PVP before 6.1.

White Mage Cure 2 bug that player abuse.

* What is going on with the ressurection ??

Why do I need to load back after the C/D ? Who thought it was a good idea to load for an extra 5 seconds ???

* Only solo queue ??

Why ?????????? Me and my friends were excited to play all 5 together and we can't.

* Chat system is horrible

Why can't we type anything ???

[Sylvain]

The idea that climbing is more about skill than it is what jobs are currently overperforming monstrously compared to others. Take it from me, who is stubbornly playing GNB despite it being easily one of the weakest jobs in PvP right now, there's only so much one person can do when limited by the devs themselves. And even when I outperform the rest of my team in spite of that, I still lose significantly more often than I win. But if you wanna just disregard the horrendous position that balancing is in right now, feel free. Your sub.

I"d argue you play the weakest by far

[Velnora]

* Balance is all over the place right now. Did they even test their game mode ?

Warrior is completely broken (who thought Primal Rend was a balanced ability ????????????)

Samourai-Red Mage-White Mage are too good.

Paladin, Bard and Black Mage are completely worthless (pretty much an instant lose if you have a Paladin on your team).

Purify needs to last longer for CC immunity. With the amount of CC in this mode ...

* Cheaters are all over the place

Infinite MP, +++++ speed. Knowing Square-Enix they won't do anything about it like they did with cheaters in PVP before 6.1.

White Mage Cure 2 bug that player abuse.

* What is going on with the ressurection ??

Why do I need to load back after the C/D ? Who thought it was a good idea to load for an extra 5 seconds ???

* Only solo queue ??

Why ?????????? Me and my friends were excited to play all 5 together and we can't.

* Chat system is horrible

Why can't we type anything ???

We're essentially paying to beta test.

[Avenheit]

change mch insta kill to crit chance. 3-5% chance to insta kill me my ass. feels like the math is wrong its like 30%

[Avenheit]

RPR enshroud in pvp should not be able to be disabled because its lb is hot garbage atm

[Risvertasashi]

WAR and WHM need to be nerfed into the ground. There is ZERO excuse for the way primal rend functions right now and WHM LB charges TOO FAST for the amount of utility it does. The LB needs to charge slower and it needs to lose several of its functions.

Nerf warrior and whm into the ground and tanks and healers will just disappear from high level play.

WAR and WHM aren't pushing other healers and tanks out. There's no healer slot for teams, there's no tank slot either.

[HalinFluffyBuns]

Tbh CC should just be a dps only mode leave the tanks and healers for frontline's

[Flatopia]

I dunno, I feel like the nerfs I want are rather minimal compared to some. There's like... 3 changes I'd make?
WHM LB to 90 secs instead of 60. The glitch should be patched but that's not so far a nerf as it is just fixing the game.
WAR's Primal Rend 20 or 25 seconds instead of 15
NIN's ranged mudras toned down in damage very slightly. I don't want a massive hit, just a teeny one.

The rest really I just want buffs. Being one of the best jobs doesn't mean it should get nerfed. There will ALWAYS be a 'best job' and there will always be a dream team composition. Instead, just make sure each job feels strong in their own way and not too awful in comparison.

Really, if we can buff DNC, GNB, SCH, MNK, PLD, and RPR, maybe tweak some stuff here or there for QoL and consistency for the rest, I actually think the game would be in a good spot.
If you get extremely angry at job balance, or find yourself blaming the fact they picked a strong job instead of adapting, you'd odds are feel the same for the new 'best jobs' if WAR/WHM got nerfed. I think we shouldn't be wanting to many nerfs to anything, and instead focus on giving the player more options and interesting tools to use with every other job.

[Risvertasashi]

Tbh CC should just be a dps only mode leave the tanks and healers for frontline's

Do you really, honestly think SE is going to take their new, accessible "Let's get everyone we can to try pvp mode" and then go "nah, let's make it so half the playerbase can't participate"?

pvp forums need to touch grass... more than usual. lol

[Velnora]

Nerf warrior and whm into the ground and tanks and healers will just disappear from high level play.

WAR and WHM aren't pushing other healers and tanks out. There's no healer slot for teams, there's no tank slot either.

No, they're pushing everyone out with how bonkers they are. Bringing them down to earth isn't making tank and healers disappear. Unless you're implying they only exist in high level play because of warrior and white mage. Which then, further reiterates the fact they are indeed, overpowered.