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  1. #11
    Player Soge01's Avatar
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Just give me Snow's hair and I'll be happy.
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  2. #12
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    KurohNeko's Avatar
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    Kuroh Usagi
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    You know it's taken 3 years for Viera and Hrothgar to get shared hairstyles right? It's not as simple when SE are on a tight schedule have deadlines to meet.

    They're going out of their way to make clothes unisex, they shouldn't put everything on hold because a few people want to wear a hairstyle that was made for a female character. They're getting around to un-genderlocking things one thing at a time, it'll take a while.
    Outsource the labor. We have a modding community. Just pick a good one that doesn't require some insane amount of data, pay the modder or ask if they can use it and implement it. They basically do for hairstyle/furniture design contests. Only unlike those this would be already developed working code that to roll out would be no different than downloading and installing yourself. Also, they arn't a damn small indie company but a billion dollar one and this is THE most popular MMO in the world. Pretty sure they can accomplish the herculean feat of cosmetics.
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  3. #13
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KurohNeko View Post
    Hair is literally a matter of changing head size a little. Unlike race it doesn't require much there really isn't much different between the genders here aside fro maybe the Au Ra which are very sexually dimorphic. To go and make the base ones the same wouldn't be too difficult. If a modder can do it for free and it doesn't mess with the code causing crashes everything, no reason they can't do it especially when its less work in the long run than releasing gender locked hairstyles when you can roll out a single hairstyle for everyone.

    We already have a bust slider, it does nothing if you notice making it mute. Some gear gives bigger tits than others which also makes no sense. Why do you think every female player runs around in 2B tights and the only tops that give their characters boobs above A-cups. These characters asses otherwise are flatter than mine. And you can't make some family friendly argument when half the female bosses are sexualized as well. It just comes down to laziness. Most asking for sliders arn't asking for jiggle physics anime boobs either, just real-world level differences. But that's a side topic and one I don't really care for but just find amusing.

    All I'm asking for is non-gender-locked hairstyles so my character doesn't have shorter hair than I do in real life.
    I do not care about your RL hair, and neither does anyone else. Only you care about it. I care about the dev team placing their time and recourses that benefits the entire playerbase rather than a select few with an identity crisis. There are long hair options for males, I can think of at least two; and even the game's actual female avatars have very few long hair options. Many of the players who actually use female avatars would love to have more longer hair options. Ever consider how they would feel if the time the dev team could have to release more of those designs, they are instead going back to the drawing board to make existing styles work for models they were never intended for in the first place.
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  4. #14
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    Nahctyrn Bhaldornnsyn
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    I'd love to use some of the female exclusive styles. More options are always nice.

    specifically ones like this:
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    Last edited by Fredco191; 04-21-2022 at 07:22 AM. Reason: added a photo of one of the hairstyles I'd use if they did this.

  5. #15
    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Padudu Moro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    You know, you could just choose a female avatar.
    If you're going to go that route, just unlock them for Lalafells exclusively. You might as well, it's not like our models differ between the sexes :P
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  6. #16
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    Redgate's Avatar
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    Sierra Karn
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    Marilith
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    Monk Lv 90
    I don't see why everyone's up in arms over the idea of having hairstyles not be locked between the genders. It's hair. You can just cut it. A large chunk of the new ones are given to both regardless of how they look nowadays anyway, so I don't really see the issue about doing it for the older ones.

    Go ahead.
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  7. #17
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    Minthe Darling
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 25
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I do not care about your RL hair, and neither does anyone else. Only you care about it. I care about the dev team placing their time and recourses that benefits the entire playerbase rather than a select few with an identity crisis. There are long hair options for males, I can think of at least two; and even the game's actual female avatars have very few long hair options. Many of the players who actually use female avatars would love to have more longer hair options. Ever consider how they would feel if the time the dev team could have to release more of those designs, they are instead going back to the drawing board to make existing styles work for models they were never intended for in the first place.
    I feel like you're coming off a bit rude for his request. I don't think it's unfair for him to want that for male avatars. I wish they would unlock all the hairstyles and give us more hair options in general. Hairstyles are just lacking lately tbh. Even the new hairstyles they came out with for Viera give the biggest forehead, most of them are unwearable. I wish they would put more resources into the cosmetic part of ffxiv
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  8. #18
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    DiaDeem's Avatar
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I just wanna remind everyone that there's already many cross-gender hairstyles that they've been adding throughout the years and that we have no reason to believe they'll stop doing that with more hairstyles.
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  9. #19
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Minthe View Post
    I feel like you're coming off a bit rude for his request. I don't think it's unfair for him to want that for male avatars. I wish they would unlock all the hairstyles and give us more hair options in general. Hairstyles are just lacking lately tbh. Even the new hairstyles they came out with for Viera give the biggest forehead, most of them are unwearable. I wish they would put more resources into the cosmetic part of ffxiv
    I just recently pointed out how it is unfair. The players who actually choose to play female avatars get arsed out when the devs choose to cater to a small but loud and entitled portion of the playerbase. But it isn't just the female avatars, it's everyone. That time they take to rework these items so everyone can use them is time lost towards developing new styles. You are under a false pretense that removing gender lock increases options, when it actually does the exact opposite.

    I don't have an issue with the releasing new gear that is not locked. But if they choose to restrict hairstyles, gear, emotes, whatever AND its released, then just leave it be.
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  10. #20
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    This argument does not work. It is a hell of a lot more work for the dev team to take a hairstyle [and attire] clearly designed for female models, and get them to work on males than it to just change to a female.
    You can't compare those things against each other because it's not the same people doing the work, even if you overlook the fact that a man with long hair is not the same thing as a woman. (Or is there something we need to be telling Estinien...?)

    There are quite a few plain long hairstyles that are currently female-only but would be fine as long styles for men. Some of the race-locked hairstyles or the early universal styles where they were still gendered, like the dreadlocks and the long wavy style. And then you have unlockable styles like Alma's that would look fantastic as a historical men's style. (I would love to dress up one of my male characters with that hairstyle and the High House justaucorps, but my only option for that combination is to crossdress one of my female characters.)
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