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    [Request] Please do something about the abuse of the tag system for forum threads!

    As some of you may very well have seen already, a recent trend that has emerged across this very forum is the abuse of the tag system. I'd like to point out first and foremost that by hovering over each tag, it shows which user added them.

    I'm not going to name any names, though a clear trend has emerged where the system is being exploited to target individual posters and/or groups of players.

    I think this would be an excellent issue for the moderators to look into, especially since it should be relatively easy to identify posters who are operating in bad faith and attempting to exploit the tag system to stifle the opinions and feedback provided by other players.

    I would humbly suggest that careful attention is paid to posters who seek to portray themselves as 'above it all' and 'against drama' only to then tag threads with targeted harassment towards users and groups who dare to have an opinion contrary to their own.

    I'm reluctant to suggest that the system should be removed altogether, since I have always considered such actions to be worthy of a last resort. Yet I do think some manner of action should be taken where abuse is being found.
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    Could you report the person who makes inappropriate tags maybe or contact the mods to remove the tags? I didn't even know anyone could add tags to a thread they didn't make, seems very weird. But seeing that this style? or format of board is old I doubt it's getting any updates any time soon..
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    This is one of those things that ultimately doesn't matter. Most people don't even know that tags exist or care to look at them.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    Could you report the person who makes inappropriate tags maybe or contact the mods to remove the tags? I didn't even know anyone could add tags to a thread they didn't make, seems very weird. But seeing that this style? or format of board is old I doubt it's getting any updates any time soon..
    Yeah, it's just that some users who complain about toxicity, but then go on to slap these on a variety of threads, as noted here: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5912920 ), basically seem to think they can use this as some kind of free pass to attack threads they don't like. Honestly, I hadn't noticed them either until someone pointed it out, but I can't imagine the tags being any less reportable than a post in the event that they become a TOS violation.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 04-20-2022 at 04:32 AM. Reason: forum being stupid with links now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Yeah, it's just that some users who complain about toxicity, but then go on to slap these on a variety of threads, as noted here: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5912920 ), basically seem to think they can use this as some kind of free pass to attack threads they don't like. Honestly, I hadn't noticed them either until someone pointed it out, but I can't imagine the tags being any less reportable than a post in the event that they become a TOS violation.
    LOL the pettiness to attack people via tags is astounding. Yeah I never paid attention to them either haha, I added my own onto here no problem so 100% can see how that's easily abusable, but that's nothing a report shouldn't be able to fix if the tag is that bad imo.
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    Last edited by Padudu; 04-20-2022 at 04:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
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    You've suddenly made me want to tag this with "You're it!". Thank you for that.
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    Wow I can't believe the toxic positivity.
    *Proceeds to make petty personal jab and direct references tags and accuses everyone of being a white knight and bootlicker*.

    Edit: No joke I didn't even realize tags existed until now rofl.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Didn’t even know people cared enough to look at tags, honestly. I always think tags should be set or created exclusively by the thread starter, if anything.
    This, even just looking through the most recent threads most of the tags are basically just trolling or weird indirect personal attacks.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 04-20-2022 at 04:45 AM.

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    Didn’t even know people cared enough to look at tags, honestly. I always think tags should be set or created exclusively by the thread starter, if anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    As some of you may very well have seen already, a recent trend that has emerged across this very forum is the abuse of the tag system. I'd like to point out first and foremost that by hovering over each tag, it shows which user added them.

    I'm not going to name any names, though a clear trend has emerged where the system is being exploited to target individual posters and/or groups of players.

    I think this would be an excellent issue for the moderators to look into, especially since it should be relatively easy to identify posters who are operating in bad faith and attempting to exploit the tag system to stifle the opinions and feedback provided by other players.

    I would humbly suggest that careful attention is paid to posters who seek to portray themselves as 'above it all' and 'against drama' only to then tag threads with targeted harassment towards users and groups who dare to have an opinion contrary to their own.

    I'm reluctant to suggest that the system should be removed altogether, since I have always considered such actions to be worthy of a last resort. Yet I do think some manner of action should be taken where abuse is being found.
    I looked at various threads and this works both ways on both sides of various issues. As you are someone on the EU Servers and prefer censorship I appreciate you stay with your own people who prefer things a certain way.

    I would humbly ask since there is a huge disconnect between English Speakers of different regions that the forums be restricted by region so that way you can speak with like minded people of your own region. I've noticed the biggest proponents of censorship here are all in the EU worlds which I respect, but I think we all need different region locked forums. I am sure ,for example, someone from the EU or NA who preaches for example wokeness but speaks Japanese would not be welcome on the Japanese boards as there is to much of a disconnect and currently in the Japanese Gaming space with Japanese Gamers very angry that western wokeness is creeping into Japanese Anime and Video Games because of Western companies demanding even Japanese Only Titles and Movies be censored in Japan even if the product is never translated or imported to the West because it might offend someone.
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    Last edited by HisShadowX; 04-20-2022 at 04:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HisShadowX View Post
    I looked at various threads and this works both ways on both sides of various issues. As you are someone on the EU Servers and prefer censorship I appreciate you stay with your own people who prefer things a certain way.

    I would humbly ask since there is a huge disconnect between English Speakers of different regions that the forums be restricted by region so that way you can speak with like minded people of your own region. I've noticed the biggest proponents of censorship here are all in the EU worlds which I respect, but I think we all need different region locked forums. I am sure ,for example, someone from the EU or NA who preaches for example wokeness but speaks Japanese would not be welcome on the Japanese boards as there is to much of a disconnect and currently in the Japanese Gaming space with Japanese Gamers very angry that western wokeness is creeping into Japanese Anime and Video Games because of Western companies demanding even Japanese Only Titles and Movies be censored in Japan even if the product is never translated or imported to the West because it might offend someone.
    Buddy:

    1) Which EU player hurt you and

    2) Was that person also a hardcore player?
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